MARY ANN COLE C1820-1896

[Wendy09]

Hi, I am new to this site and just seen your entry about a Cole possibly in Rotherhithe at some time.  My G-G-Grandfather James Charles William Cole was listed as born at Mill Pond Bridge, Surrey on my G-Grandfathers birth Cert, but on G-G-Grandfathers (JCWC) marriage Cert he is listed as born Rotherhithe near Deptford, Surrey.  So I am always on the look out for Cole family with any association with the same area. I notice a couple of ladies have tried to help you in your quest. My G-G-Grandfather seems to have been born in 1842 based on age at his sons birth and age at marriage but he may have been actually born or just christened 3 yrs later as i found his christening on 2/5/1845  at St Mary Magdeline, Bermondsey, Surrey, England. His parents were William Haydon Cole & Rebecca Tupper which were found from his marriage  Cert to Ann Hoath.  Because my G-G-Grandfather (JCWC) married here in Australia to an older lady who also came to Australia from UK & married in 1869, I have not been able to track him back any further. In the event that someone sees this posting and finds anything in 1841 census that might shed some light on the families I would greatly appreciate it. My G-G-Grandfather had a sister Rebecca Susan Cole born Dec Q 1839 in Bermondsey,  chr 7/7/1841 St Mary Magdeline, Bermondsey, so she would be with parents in 1841. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Wendy in Australia

[cath151]

Hi Wendy,
Welcome to rootschat.
I can only find the following in the 1841 census

Gelding Street, St Mary Magdelin, Bermondsey.

Anne Cole  40
Rachael "    15
John      "    25
Rebecca "    25
William   "    20
Rebecca "     1
All born county

All ages approximate as they were often rounded up or down to th nearest 5 years in 1841.
Rebecca and William could be James' parents?

1851
Same family
19, Rose Court, St Mary Magdelin, Bermondsey

William Cole  head mar 32  Labourer
Rebecca "     wife   mar  33
Rebecca "      dau           11
Charles  "      son             9
Ann        "      dau             6
William   "        son            3
Thomas  "        son            1
John Morgan lodger  unm  31

All born Surrey, Bermondsey.
Could James Charles William be using his second name? My g grandfather was born as George Stephen but was forever known as Stephen. Only certificates would confirm if this was the right family.

I have the following on cd
1813-1825 births, marriages and burials, St Mary Magdalen, Rotherhithe.
No baptisms for a William Haywood Cole
No marriages
Burials
Mary Cole 1821 Feb 25 from Mill Pond Bridge  aged 69 years
Henry Cole  1823 Feb 26 from George Row   age uk
Maria  Cole  1814  May 29  from Paradise Street  infant
William  1813  April 11 from Cross Alley  aged 72 years

Hope some of this might be of help.
If you have any new queries about your family then it would be good to start a fresh thread for a wider audience, but please let me know if i can help anymore. Best wishes
 Cathy

[Bostel]

Thanks for all the suggestions, at the moment I do not think that we have found the correct family as yet.

I'll just have to keep searching.

Carol

[Wendy09]

Thank you Cath - yes you look like you have found the right family and I will now go see if I can find the other people listed in census. You may have given me William Cole's siblings & mother from 1841 entry and more of Rebecca & James Charles siblings.  You are correct that I have found James Charles William Cole sometimes just as Charles William Cole which was very confusing to start with, so I am happy that you have found a match for this family in census records. I hadn't been able to get anywhere with this family till 2 weeks ago, so your help now is wonderful giving me more to hunt for now. Mary Cole burial 1821 in Mill Pond Bridge is very interesting.  I haven't found anything with that location entered anywhere before, so now I know it existed and there was family born & buried there.
A huge thanks to you for all this and I will take up your suggestion of creating a new thread once I get a handle as they say on the info you have given me.

Kind regards
Wendy in Australia

[damikinch]

Hi Wendy.

Picture of Mill Pond Bridge at the following website

http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/art/138621/View_of_the_Mill_Pond_Bridge_Bermondsey_1826_from_Pennants

Regards,
Dave.