MARY ANN COLE C1820-1896

[Bostel]

I'm sorry I posted this previously on the wrong board.
 
I wonder if there is anyone out there who can help me please?

I'm trying to find out more about my great grandmoth MARY ANN COLE she married a JOSEPH FIELD on 15 July 1843 at Newington, her father is shown as BENJAMIN COLE a Fireman.

According to census returns she was born in 1821 in Bermondsey although one return shows Rotherhithe.

Is there anyone with access to the baptisms for these areas please?

[Jane Masri]

Hi Bostel,
There would be more than one church in these places so not an easy task    Have you found her or her family in 1841?  I had a quick look but too many possibilities & it's more than likely she's not with them, probably out earning a living,

jane

[Bostel]

Hi Jane

No I have not been able to find her in 1841, I have in fact been looking this afternoon and had no luck.

I tried for her father and also for a Susanna Cole who appears as a witness on her marriage, but again no luck.

[Jane Masri]

The only thing I found was a marriage on the IGI of a Benjamin Cole to a Jane Base 2/12/1811, St. George the Martyr, Southwark..could be something could be nothing.
Susannah Cole might be a sister/mother or cousin 

jane

[cath151]

Hi,
Have just seen the posts, i have a cd for baptisms marriages and burials for St Mary, Rotherhithe 1813-1825.
There are the following baptism entries, though of course they may not be your family at all.

COLE        Ann   1823 Jun 29   Dau of Benjamin and Ann
COLE        James 1814  Jun 22 son of Benjamin and Ann
COLE        James 1820  Jan 21 Son of John and Harriot
COLE        Mary Amy  1819 Jan 24  Dau of Benjamin and Ann
COLE        Mary Ann Terrell  1816 Dec 1  Dau of Benjamin and Ann
COLE       Sarah  1821  July 8            Dau of Benjamin and Ann

Best wishes
 Cathy       

[Reyz]

Hi

This might be Mary Ann's father  :

St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Baptisms
Benjamin COLE
Birth date  20 December 1782
Baptism date  17 April 1783
Father Thos  -  Sail Maker
Mother Lydia
Address :  Cherry Garden  - which was in Bermondsey.


St Mary Magdelen Bermondsey
Baptism
Sarah Batch COLE
Birth date  29 Oct 1808
Baptism     12 Mar 1809
Parents  Benjamin  -  a Victualler
              Ann
Address  Spa Road.

Possibly BATCH was the Mothers maiden name?
Different occupation for this Benjamin but it might help with process of elimination.

Just in case yours  :

St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey

Susannah COLE
Birth    15 May 1809
Baptism 4 Jun 1809
Parents William  a Labourer
             Elizabeth
Address Grange Road.

Susannah Sarah COLE
Birth 20 Oct 1800
Baptism 3 July 1808
Parents John a Cooper
             Elizabeth
Address Staple Court.

Good luck
Reyz.

[Bostel]

Thanks for all the suggestions, at the moment I do not think that we have found the right family.

The 1881 census is the only one that records her as having been born in Rotherhithe, the 1851,61,71 & 91 all say Bermondsey, they all give a birth date of 1820/21. She died 25 December 1896 and is shown as being 77 years old, which could therefore mean that she was born in 1819, the death was registered by her daughter. On the maariage certificate, her address seems to say 12 Bank Side, (two seperate words) but the first word is a little unclear.  As well as a Susanna Cole the second witness to the wedding was a George Williams.

Once again many thanks for all the suggestions.

Carol

[Bostel]

One futher thing I forgot, she got married in
'Trinity Church in the parish of St Mary, Newington'

Carol

[Reyz]

Hi Carol

I looked up '12 Bankside' on the 1851 Census.  Maybe even after 8 years there might  be some clues.

Details  'Bankside' Southwark Bridge.  St Saviour's Southwark.  1558 / 302 a  / 

No 12 appears to be a Pub with several family's living there.  I cant see any obvious connection but pass it on just in case.

Wm BANFIELD?  5?    Licensed Victualler   born Woolwich
Wife Jane 42 born Blackwall,
Children  :    Josh 19 Waterman Blackwall,  Maria 3 Blackwall,  Jane 1 Bankside
 and a Mary? Hanley 20 House servant born Castle? St Middx.

Fitzpgibbon family all born London.
Gerard? Head 36 Clerk to Drywalter??
Wife Margaret 35
children Margaret 10, Mary Jane 2? and John 4.
Mary Ann Mohan?  16 House servant born Cork Ireland.

Henry Listram/Jristram?  Head  W  71  Secretary to   born Yorkshire.
David or Daniel ALDER  Visitor  W  66  retired Merchant Born C...?
Eliz Jane SMITH  Servant  24  House servant born C.....
Henry SMITH                 9                                         D..
//

12 Bankside was 'the George PH'  http://deadpubs.co.uk/index.shtml

I did look right through Bankside and no COLES I could see.

I noted the baptism for ' Sarah Batch Cole' her  father Benjamin was a Victualler.. Wonder if he was at the Bankside address in 1843??

Drat !!   just seen your Benjamin was a Fireman.. 

Good luck, 
Reyz.