Tavistock CROSSMAN

[DOB7]

I only have access to burials 1813-1837 - sorry!

[Mrs J E]

I have been in contact with anne we emailed each other over 2 years ago,  My name is Jacqui and I come from the line of Elizabeth Rosamond Kinsman married Richard Osborn I have many name on my tree and will now enter my tree on this site as there seems to be a lot of people out there, my names include Osborn, jago, Kinsman, Hodge, Rowe, Cocks, Pope, Crispin, I live not too far from Tavistock and have headstone photos of Andrew Osborn son of Richard and Elizabeth.  Glad to be of any assistance to anyone who wants it.  I just love this!

Found a posting on Rootsweb Message Board:

http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.jago/62.79.82.1.1/mb.ashx

From: ------  (no longer valid email address)
Subject: Re: Jago- Tavistock
Date: 19 Feb 2002 12:20:35 -0700

This is absolutely fantastic they are also my ancestors or a line from then Margaret Jago Married Thomas Jago - Margaret was sister to Elizabeth Rosamond Kinsman who married Richard Osborn. I know my tree has gone slightly sideways but it all helps. Thomas and Margaret also had a son called Thomas who married a Dinah Pennington. They had a son called William Henry Pennington Jago and he married Emma Osborn the granddaughter of Elizabeth and Richard Osborn. They all came from Tavistock in Devon and most of them are buried there.

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[Gossypium]

Welcome Jacqui  Actually this is DOB7's department as the person who set up the Online Parish Clerks for Devon of which regretably there is none for Tavistock.  The rest of us are not from the area and know very little about it so I am sure you can help.  We are interested in different families - Hemmum and I are interested in Crossmans likely to be buried at Dolvin Road Cemetery but we have not located the burial records which are not at Plymouth and West Devon as DOB7 suggested earlier, but maybe Exeter Record Office who are not replying to emails at the moment.  This is the best place for any of us to put any new findings for all to see and any help from DOB7 and you will be much appreciated. I am sure DOB7 would be delighted if you become a Devon Online Parish Clerk for Tavistock!

[Mrs J E]

Ok Just a bit about Tavistock it is a Mining Town and was linked very much to Plympton as these were both made into Stannary town,  The Jagos were mainly cabinet makers and carpenters, Osborns were a mining family,   Dolvin Road cemetary was the first to be used and was closed in 1881 so you will not find many records relating to that one.  There are a few headstones remaining in it although somewhat overgrown and quite creepy. A new cemetary was put to use from 1881 and is call Plymouth Road Cemetary,  you can get lists of you is interred there as long as you are prepared to pay per search and per name usually about £10 - £15 they also have a list of who maystill be in Dolvin Road.  I have a small list of Jago names at both cemetaries.  Don't forget to have look at the Tavistock Union Workhouse records also very handy.   I hope I can be of some use and will help with any questions about any of the names i am looking for, also you might want to look at a site about Walkhampton this is not far from Tavistock and you could find Crossman there and also the DFHS have burial list for each individual names.  I will be here again tomorrow, battery going on laptop, Good luck hope to hear from you all soon,  Jacqui

[APHK]

I've been preparing a tree for the Tavistock Kinsman line, which will eventually be published on the Kinsman family tree site here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kingsman/kinsman/andrewkinsman/home.html

It includes Elizabeth Rosamund, Margaret & Caleb who have already been discussed in this thread.

John Kinsman & Sarah were the parents of:
John Kinsman (shoemaker; bap 01 Sep 1760 The Abbey Chapel-Presbyterian, Tavistock; d. 26 Nov 1838 Tavistock 9/317) mar. Margaret Pope (bap. 19 Jul 1759 Tavistock; d. 22 Dec 1836 Tavistock) 19 Jul 1789 Tavistock

Children of John & Margaret:
1. Elizabeth Rosamund (bap 22 Aug 1790 The Abbey Chapel-Presbyterian, Tavistock; d. 17 Apr 1856 Tavistock) mar. Richard Osborn 7 Jan 1814 Tavistock
2. Savina (bap. 13 Feb 1793 The Abbey Chapel-Presbyterian, Tavistock) mar. Henry Rowe (b. c.1779 Camelford, Cornwall) 2 Dec 1811 Stoke Damerel
3. Margaret (b. 8 Dec 1797; bap 11 Dec 1797, Brook St Independent, Tavistock; d. 3 Jan 1848 Tavistock) mar. Thomas Jago 14 Jun 1820 Tavistock and had eight children.

Prior children of Margaret:
3-1. Eliza (baseborn; bap. 6 May 1817 Tavistock) took on Jago name and mar Robert Crossman 27 Nov 1835 St Andrew Plymouth
3-2. Joseph (baseborn; bap. 22 May 1820 Tavistock; bur. 30 Nov 1822 Tavistock age 3)

4. Caleb (general labourer; b. 2 Oct 1802; bap 9 Oct 1802, Brook St Independent, Tavistock; d. Q1 1869 Plymouth 5b/221 age 66) mar Susannah Crocker (b. c1807 Launceston; d. Q4 1888 Leominster age 83 6a/321) 31 Mar 1828 East Stonehouse Church (St. George's)

Children of Caleb & Susanna:
4-1. Elizabeth Crocker (b. 10 Mar 1829 Tavistock; bur. 15 Aug 1830 Tavistock aged 1)
4-2. Achsah (b. 12 May 1831; bap 31 May 1831, Brook St Independent, Tavistock; d. 9 Jul 1831 Bere Ferrers, Devon)
4-3. John Crocker Kinsman (tailor but served in Royal Marines from 1854 until he was invalidated out in 1863: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-5517900&FullDetails=True&j=1&Gsm=2008-08-08; b. 8 May 1833 & bap 9 Jun 1833 Wesleyan, Tavistock; d. Q1 1919 Exeter 5b/154 age 81) mar Mary Ann Drew (b.c.1835 Lostwithiel, Cornwall; d. Q2 1870 East Stonehouse 5b/223) Q2 1855 East Stonehouse, Devon 5b/497 and later married Annie Hutchings (b.c1836 Tiverton) Q4 1877 Bromley, Kent 2a/565

Children of John Crocker & Mary Ann:
4-3-1. John George (b. Q1 1858 Stonehouse, Devon 5b/280)
4-3-2. Mary Louisa (b. Q4 1862 Stonehouse, Devon 5b/304)
4-3-3. Alfred James (b. Q2 1864 Harberton, Totnes 5b/200) mar. Annie Laura Ashwood (b. c.1872, Edgbaston, Birmingham) Q3 1890 Stoke Upon Trent, Staffs 6b/348

Children of Alfred J & Annie L:
4-3-3-1. Maud Mary (b. Q3 1891 Tunstall, Staffs 6b/120; d. Q3 1907 Tunstall, Staffs 6b/67; age 16)
4-3-3-2. Alfred James (b. Q2 1893 Tunstall, Staffs 6b/153)
4-3-3-3. Eva Constance Mary (b. Q3 1896 Tunstall, Staffs 6b/102; d. Q4 1913 Congleton, Staffs; age 17)
4-3-3-4. Leslie John (b. Q1 1900 Tunstall, Staffs 6b/101)
4-3-3-5. Anne Laura D. (b. Q3 1902 Wolstanton, Staffs 6b/108)

Children of John Crocker & Ann:
4-3-4. Annie Maud (b. Q3 1878 Tiverton, Devon 5b/430)
4-3-5. William Caleb (b. Q2 1880 Exeter, Devon 5b/78)

4-4. William Croker (stonemason; b. Q3 1838 Tavistock 9/438; d. 22 Mar 1915 Plymouth 5b/539) mar. Jane Osmond Q2 1862 Plymouth 5b/541
4-5. Eliza Jane (b. Q4 1841 Tavistock 9/461) mar George Lamb (b.c1838 Kelso, Scotland) 16 Dec 1866, Plymouth 5b/525
4-6. Charles Henry Croker (seaman on HMS Chanticleer in the Pacific under Captain Bridges; b. 12 Mar 1845 Tavistock 9/470; d. Q1 1898 Birkenhead 8a/359 age 53) mar. Jessie Scott (b. c.1850 Scotland; d. Q2 1895 Birkenhead 8a/335 age 45) 13 Aug 1873 Birkenhead 8a/663

Child of Charles & Jessie:
4-6-1. John Charles (b. Q4 1887 Birkenhead 8a/517)

4-7. Harriett H Croker (b. Q2 1848 Tavistock 9/?) mar Joseph Lloyd (b.c.1833 Tavistock) - can't find marriage on BMD.
 
Please do let me know of any amendments/additions. DOB7, do you have the b./bap./bur. dates of Elizabeth Crocker/Croker, please?

[DOB7]

Not sure which Elizabeth CROCKER you mean - I've lost the plot here as this isn't one of my lines and all of this discussion was 2 months ago. 
Elizabeth, dau of Caleb & Margaret was baptised at Tavistock:
Elizabeth Crocker KINSMAN 10 Mar 1829, father a labourer of Barley Market Street.
Let me know if this isn't what you are asking.

[APHK]

That's the one, many thanks DOB7. Do you have the burial date (from 1830) too, by any chance please?   

[DOB7]

15 Aug 1830 aged 1.

[APHK]

Okay, many thanks DOB7. I've just modified the tree I posted so that it now incorporates this extra info.