Interesting Baptism Suggestion. 1763-1764.

[karrienz]

Hi All and particularly Ben;

This is becoming most interesting this thread about Rose bn 1750, dau of Richard and Judith - however, I wonder if you've seen the marriage of Rose Titshall in Jan 1759, Barnham to Charles Dykes amongst your searches - I was wondering if she was either the widow of Thomas (brl 1739 Barnham) or could be a dau bn about 1723+- (a sister to Richard (m Judith).  I'm wondering if they also had a son, Thomas??? bn 1725+-). Not sure how this fits with things leading up to a burial in May 1774 of Rose Titsall in Barnham - did women revert to their unmarried name sometimes after they were widowed?

Could also Bridget Titsall (bn 1721 +-) married to Henry Chapman in Euston, Suffolk 1745 be a sister to Thomas and Rose's son, Richard (m Judith). (Euston being 'up the road and round the corner' from Barnham)

Also rather interesting that Rose, dau of Rich/Judith isn't mentioned in the settlement certificates (or any other children for that matter) - so I thought maybe she'd been left with relatives in Laxfield (and later married Christopher Foreman).  With only marriages to go by it's rather difficult isn't it. 

 
off to work now....Wednesday morning 

Karen

[coombs]

Hi karrienz

They married in October 1768 and the settlement examinatiuon was December that year so she had just got married.

Ben

[karrienz]

Hi Ben; I came across this on the weekend looking up Titshalls again; I'm puzzled because in earlier posts you have said that Richard Titshall married to Anna Maria (Hunt) died in Framlington in 1807:

National Archives UK: Settlement Certificate

Richard Titshall, miller, and Anna Maria, his wife, Framlington to Redlingfield, 28 July 1822

Could it have been another Richard who died in 1807? or is this another Richard married to a different Anna Maria?

Karen

[coombs]

Hi Ben; I came across this on the weekend looking up Titshalls again; I'm puzzled because in earlier posts you have said that Richard Titshall married to Anna Maria (Hunt) died in Framlington in 1807:

National Archives UK: Settlement Certificate

Richard Titshall, miller, and Anna Maria, his wife, Framlington to Redlingfield, 28 July 1822

Could it have been another Richard who died in 1807? or is this another Richard married to a different Anna Maria?

Karen

Hi Karen. It was 1802 not 1822 as I have the original records. I think that was a typing error on their part.

[karrienz]

Oh great - I'm so pleased as it was starting to 'do my head in'    I'm actually looking up some of the Suffolk/Norfolk Titsell/Titsall families in the archives...makes interesting reading anyway and when I saw this one I thought surely not another Richard!

[coombs]

Hi

Yes those Titshall's certainly did get around. Rose Titshall who wed in 1768 was the one who was born in 1750 in Norfolk. She wed just before the family became part of a settlement examination so she had just left home.

My great grandfather Richard Titshall moved from the sleepy village of Letheringham in Suffolk to the market town of Rochford in Essex in about 1905.

Ben

[coombs]

William Titshall born 1761 wed in 1786 in Shottisham to Elizabeth Broom. One of the witnesses was a Richard Titshall. Probably the brother born 1764 or the father born 1728.

And a William Titshall wed in 1750 in Hasketon to a Sarah. They had a daughter Sarah in 1750. It appears they moved to Homersfield in Suffolk near the Norfolk border and had a son William baptised in 1773 but born 1764. I have been unable to tie William Snr in with my Richard born 1728. I dont think Richard had a brother William baptised at Barnham. He had a brother John baptised 1726.

I am still no closer to finding the baptism of Richard Titshall born 1763-1764. But the parents did move around a lot so it may turn up eventually.

[karrienz]

Hi Ben; it's been a while - looking at the info I've collected and tweaked recently for the Titshall family - had a thought that it's interesting that Thomas Titsall and Rose (Thurrock/Sharrock) don't appear to have a son Thomas bn 1721+ and also wondered if you had considered in your search for the elusive baptism of Richard, son of Richard Titshall and Judith Scarfe if they had ever had a son Thomas?  Could Richard bn C1764 have actually been Thomas Richard Titshall? I know middle names weren't that common for that period but occasionally they crop up. 

Anyway just keeping in touch. 

regards Karen

[coombs]

Hi Karen

That is an idea.

All I know currently is Richard and Judy Titshall had 3 known children, Rose born 1750, William born 1760 and Richard born 1764. The baptisms of the two elder ones have been found. But yes he could have been born Thomas Richard Titshall or even Thomas Titshall and later known as or renamed Richard.

If I have evidence of them moving around Richard born 1764 may have been baptised outside Suffolk, if his sister was born in Norfolk in 1750 yet the parents did originate from Suffolk.

I wonder if they ever had other children who died in infancy or moved away and wed elsewhere?

Ben