Interesting Baptism Suggestion. 1763-1764.

[karrienz]

Hi Ben

This last weekend, I've been re-reading all the posts for your Titshalls from the past year or so; as you may remember I am interested in Maria Titsall mother of William Gooch Titsall ( I see though you have removed 'Gooch' from your surname interests) anyhow yesterday I was looking again at my family sheets after re-reading your enquiry below for the bp of Richard - I don't know if you've noticed on the IGI the following: 

Rose Titsel - dau of Richd. Titsel/Juda

08-09-1850

Gt Ellingham, Norfolk

could this be a first child of theirs - as you mentioned there was quite a gap from the time of marriage to the first bp of William in 1760.

I noticed when I 'sorted all the data from the IGI that the Norfolk spellings were particularly 'different' to the later Suffolk ones a hundred years on but to have 'Judith' as a mother - well, it appears there's only the one!  Also the transcription may have been from a 'smudged' original and a 'wild guess' taken at the spelling. 

As my post tonight is 18months after your last one; you may have already solved the mystery of where Richard was born or baptised.  I had a difficult time with a bp on one of my other families and finally found it on the same day as the last baby born to the family and the person was nearly 14 at the time~I guess with all the moving around etc your family had to be settled before a bp could take place. 

regards Karen

[coombs]

Hi Karrienz

Wow. Thanks for that 1750 baptism. Great Ellingham, Norfolk. Gosh. I am sure that is a baptism of a child to my Richard and Judith. Richard's mother was Rose Titshall nee Sharrock so that also helps. Titsel is not that different from Titshall.

That would certainly explain why there seemed to be a birth gap between their 1748 marriage and the first child born in 1760. I still have not yet found the baptism of Richard Titshall born in 1764 though. But with this new baptism of an elder child we could be getting closer. I did have a small suspicion he may have been baptised outside Suffolk and that could well be the case. He may have been born in Norfolk. They did appear to move around a lot around Suffolk so they may have lived in Norfolk for a while. Maybe one of them was of Norfolk descent.

Ben

[suffolk*sue]

Hi Ben

Gt Ellingham and several other parish Norfolk parish registers are here, but not indexed, so you can browse the images.

http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html?datestamp=1201592336948#r=-1&p=allCollections

[coombs]

Hi Sue

The original says Titsel. I have downloaded the document. I need to contact some relatives who are also researching as they are also wondering why the 11 year gap but I lost their email address.

Ben

[karrienz]

Hi Ben

I'm so glad you were able to tie in that bp of Rose Titsel to your family - as I've mentioned before in my earlier posts this year, I took all the Titshall names/variants off the IGI and matched up families for them and this one was a 'wildcard' in Norfolk and out of place date wise as well as the IGI only appears to have very early Norfolk names. 

regards Karen

[karrienz]

Hi Ben

just out of interest I wonder if you've got a marriage or any children connected to William Titshall brother to Richard that you are looking for the baptism of?  I'm sitting here with my family sheets and staring at a blank page - it's just that as all my Titshall info originally came off the IGI there didn't appear to be anything directly matched to him. 

I have Hannah,  Elizabeth, Mary all as children of Richard and Sarah Fairweather. 

I have a note on their sheet from the archived boards at Rootsweb of a lady, Allison,  who had John, Elizabeth, Mary and Samuel (John & Samuel not on the IGI) but appeared to be included in her family bible.  .

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SUFFOLK/2002

17/02/2002

or you can google Titshall Allison 2002 and it takes you to the archives

as this is 8 years ago you may have already been in contact with Allison by now - as she appears to be researching Richard and Sarah Fairweather families I thought it might interest you

regards Karen

[coombs]

Hi Karrienz

I am not sure if William had any children. It would be good to find what happened to his older sister Rose born 1750.

Amazing that they lived in Norfolk for a short while. Richard and Judith did get around. This may explain why it is hard to find Richard Jns baptism in about 1764.

Ben

[coombs]

So Richard and Judith Titshall's residence is as follows:-

1748 Sapiston, Suffolk.
1748 Marriage at Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk.
1750 Great Ellingham, Norfolk
1753 Dennington, Suffolk
1760 Laxfield, Suffolk
1767 Framlingham, Suffolk
1768 Laxfield
1769 Dennington.
1782 Dennington. Judith dies in Dennington in 1782.
1785 Richard remarries in Hacheston to Ann Hunt.
1798 Redlingfield, Suffolk
1802 Framlingham, Suffolk
1807 Framlingham, Suffolk. Richard dies that year after a eventful life.

Richard did get around the county, and moved around with both wives. And to be living in Norfolk for a while is good. Great Ellingham is also quite a way into the county, about 15 miles from the Suffolk border.

[suffolk*sue]

Theres this burial

Rose Titshall
21st May, 1774
Barnham, Suffolk
age not known.