Moore, Reid

[celticman]

Andrew Reid is my Great Granduncle. He appears to have been a great "rags to riches and back to rags" story as he ended up in the Perth Prison for the Criminally Insane. He does have connections with Australia. In fact he was part owner of the "James Craig", now the flagship of the Sydney Heritage Fleet, originally launched as the "Clan McLeod" in 1874. He was also an owner of the "Andrew Reid" which ended her days in Australian waters. His uncle William died at Nine Mile Rush, Whirro, Australia. Contact me for lots more info on this family line.

[ssimpso]

Davidfromgalloway;

I am interested in your post. My great-grandfather Charles Moore Simpson owned the company in the 70s. He had four sons who ran the company after him. As far as I know there were no daughters, unless it was the daughters of one of the sons (ahh confusing, sorry!). I was wondering if you wouldn't mind giving me some more information you have, or if there is another Simpson family you are referring to?

[goldlabel]

Hi, My name is Charels Moore Simpson. My Grandfather was Richard Simpson. After my Grandfather's death my Father and his 3 brothers ran "Charles Moore's" originally from the Gorbals in Glasgow and subsequently from Lawmoore street following the fire. It was My Uncle Glen (second eldest) who had daughters Elizabeth and Margaret.

By the way, why the interest?

Charles Moore simpson JR

[apanderson]

Hello Charles,

I couldn't resist answering your 'why the interest?' question.

If you are at all interested in tracing your family history, you'll no doubt soon discover that it becomes quite an obsession and all 'Moore's' (for example) become of interest, whether or not they end up related to the particular line or family being traced.

It's discussions like these which soon turns up lots of valuable family links and information previously unknown.

Anne.

P.S. Welcome to Rootschat! 

[goldlabel]

To ssimpso and others,

Here's what I have, after a chat with my Mother:

Charlie and George Moore operated C & G Moore in Glasgow. Charlie Moore was married to my Grand Father's sister Margaret (I think). Margaret had at least two other sisters, Elizabeth and Mary. Charlie Moore had one son who died in WW I. Elizabeth (GA Bessie had no children & Mary was never married) - again I stand to be corrected.

So - Richard Simpson (my Grandfather) came home from the war (WW I) and with no job, joined C & G Moore. Charlie and George had a disagreement and Charlie left and started Charles Moore's. George continued with C & G for a wee while, but later joined up with competitor Joseph Dunn to form Dunn and Moore.

With no heirs, Charlie finally let Richard buy into the company and eventually buy it.

Richard Simpson married Nora Simpson and had 4 sons: Richerd (Dick), Glen, James (Jimmy) and my father, Charles Moore Simpson.

Dick: Leonora and Richard
Glen: MArgaret and Elizabeth
Jimmy: Russel and Victoria
Charles: Chales and Glen.

Hope this helps,

CMS jr.
   

[davidffromgalloway]

to ssimpso
From other posts and particularly that of 'goldlabel' the family I referred to are direct descendants of Richard Simpson and presumably relatives of yourself. I went  out -all too briefly - with one of the girls in the early 70's.  I saw the above thread and thought I could help the query.
I  hope my contribution has been of some use to 'farmerjosephine' as it seems to have made clear a family line associated with Charles Moore, although there is a contradiction between 'tidybooks'' post that a Charles Moore had 6 Children and a servant, and 'goldlabel's information that he had no issue (possibly no male issue, possibly another person of the same name, possibly victims of the higher incidence of infant mortality?). As 'apanderson' has implied, one becomes interested despite oneself. (I wonder how the reid query is going).
D

[tidybooks]

Hi Goldlabel and davidfromgalloway & all,

The Charles Moore I found in the 1901 census, is listed as an Aerated Water Manufacturer at Brownside Road, Cambuslang born in Glasgow in 1867, his wife is listed as Agnes, born 1869 Glasgow. The children are Agnes b 1888, Annie b 1890, Maggie b 1892, Helen b 1894, John b 1895 & Charles b 1897. There was a servant called Martha Gardner aged 16. All children born in Glasgow.

This must be a different family, unless it was the young Charles b 1897, he may have had a younger brother born after the 1901 census called George.

CMS Jr mentions that his Charles Moore married his grandfather's sister.  Would need to prove who sister was and work backwards presumably to get correct Charles Moore.

Tom

[tidybooks]

Hi again,

The Charles Moore (senior) in the 1901 census, was married in 1888 to Agnes Hutchison in Calton, Glasgow, as found on Scotland peoples website. This proves that it is not the same family as Goldlabels grandfather who was a Simpson.

The correct marriage is Charles Moore to Margaret Anderson Simpson in 1907 at Blythswood reference 644/10 0467 I think, as SP only returns 1 result to Charles Moore marrying a Simpson.

Tom

[celticman]

I'm disappointed that I have never heard back from farmerjosephine. Perhaps I was not clear in my post that my Great Granduncle Andrew Reid who died in Perth Prison for the criminally insane was in fact the Andrew Reid who was a biscuit manufacturer in Glasgow and husband of Jane Park. The Reid part of the query doesn't seem to have attracted much attention. If anyone's interested in this line, I have lots of information.