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Re: Elizabeth TRENEWTH - brick wall, any help welcome!
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 10:35 GMT (UK) »
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 27 January 09 13:33 GMT (UK) »
The Registers of Seamen's Services (National Archives) shows a William Trenouth HURRELL born in 1824 at Plymstock,Devon.

It is just possible that he is a child of Elizabeth's first marriage - if you take into account the rounding down of ages in the 1841 census.  Elizabeth is shown as 30, but could be 34, which would make her about 18 when William was born.

William Tremouth Hurrell married Martha Thompson in Jun quarter of 1847.

An avenue to explore perhaps?
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Re: Elizabeth TRENEWTH - brick wall, any help welcome!
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 November 09 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Maidmarian and Galium - sorry I'm coming back to this so late, I tend to work on this in fits and starts and forgot where I'd posted.

Marian, that death in Woolwich is, I think, John Penligan's 3rd wife. In 1881 they were living in Beer in Devon where he'd been Coastguard chief officer but now retired, he died 1885. The first Elizabeth's daughter, Emma, was living in Bermondsey, her son was drowned in 1873 (I've just discovered) and the 2 children of John's second wife were in Hull, so I think Elizabeth no. 2 must have moved to London when John died.

Galium, thanks for that - it's an avenue for sure, isn't it?

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Re: Elizabeth TRENEWTH - brick wall, any help welcome!
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 November 09 14:46 GMT (UK) »
The Registers of Seamen's Services (National Archives) shows a William Trenouth HURRELL born in 1824 at Plymstock,Devon.

It is just possible that he is a child of Elizabeth's first marriage - if you take into account the rounding down of ages in the 1841 census.  Elizabeth is shown as 30, but could be 34, which would make her about 18 when William was born.

William Tremouth Hurrell married Martha Thompson in Jun quarter of 1847.

An avenue to explore perhaps?

Thanks to Devon FHS, it looks like some light is shed on the Hurrell connection.

In June 1824, Elizabeth Trenouth married John Ball Hurrell in Plymstock; William Trenouth Hurrell, parents John & Elizabeth, was born 3 months later in the same parish. There are no other Elizabeth Trenouths marrying a Hurrell in their records so that must be my connection. In 1798, a John Hurrell married Elizabeth Ball, also in Plymstock - assuming a family tradition of giving the first born son his mother's maiden name as a middle name, this would make the 1798 marriage 1824 John's parents and John the eldest son.

John Ball Hurrell died in July 1829; Elizabeth Hurrell went onto marry John Penligan in 1832, giving birth to my 3 x great grandmother, Emma Jane Penligan, in 1835.

William Trenouth Hurrell also ended up in the Coast Guard, moving to Norfolk and then on to Lincolnshire. He married Martha Thompson in 1847 and named his eldest daughter Emma Jane, the same as his half sister in Devon. After Martha's death he then remarried Eliza Laws in Lincolnshire in 1884, dying in 1896 at the age of 71.

Sadly none of this helps with precisely *who* Eliizabeth Trenouth was :( Since she was born outside Devon and I don't know where, my brick wall is firmly in place. According to Ancestry, there is a large cluster of Trenouths in the St Columb/Padstow area of Cornwall but I don't know where to turn next.