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Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask so forgive me if I've got it wrong.
I think that Thomas Border, his wife Ann and their young son Ralph went from the UK (Murton Colliery, co Durham) to Pennsylvania some time between 1863-66.  Their daughter Hannah was born in Schuykill Co in 1868 according to a family tree I've seen, but I've not been able to confirm that.
Their next son is born in the UK, Murton again, in 1868.
What's the best way of checking Hannah's birth place please? This family tree is the only place I've seen it, though on the 1891 census she gives her birth place as America.
Also, is there a way of checking where they lived and whether Thomas was a coal miner when in America?

In hope
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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The 1881 has Ann married to Thomas Luke and living in East Murton.  Ralph Border 17 and Thomas Border 12 are with them, both b Easington but no Hannah.  

Could this be Hannah's birth?

Births June qtr 1861 

 
Border  Hannah    Easington  10a 332   

Births June qtr 1863
 
BORDER  Ralph     Easington  10a 358
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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:24 GMT (UK) »
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Could this be Hannah's birth?

Births June qtr 1861 


It's not - Thomas & Ann only married in the September qtr 1861 and I've just seen the 1891 entry - she was b 1865/66
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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:30 GMT (UK) »
1881 has her as Ann aged 15 b Pennsylvania and living with grandmother Jane Ramsay in East Murton
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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:37 GMT (UK) »
I don't know if you've seen this but here is an interesting website regarding Thomas Border:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fdavies/index.html
According to this person's research, Thomas Border was acquited of murder in something called The Molly Maguire Riots. There are some court documents at the website. The site also indicates that Hannah was born in 1866 after the family settled in Tuscarora, Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania.

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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for taking the time to look.
Thomas died 1868 April, so Ann was widowed with a young family and then seems to have married again quite quickly.  
I wondered if there was a "coal rush" to America, a bit like the gold rush but when they got there they found that life wasn't actually any better and came back - pure imagination with not a shred of evidence to back it up.
Hannah went on to marry into my paternal family in 1894 so I've got information on her after that, just her birth seems unusual.

CaroleW - that seems a fair assumption re name.  Thank you.
Jacquie - thanks a million.  I thought I'd seen that some time ago when her name first cropped up, then I couldn't find it again and thought I was dreaming.  I'll make sure to copy it this time and bookmark it.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 28 December 08 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to Jacquie in Canada, mystery solved.  What a horrible experience - it's no wonder he took the family back to the UK after it.

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Re: Thomas Border & Family, Pennsylvania, 1866
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 January 09 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mauve and others: Thomas Border was more than likely a coal miner while he was in Pennsylvania, otherwise he wouldn't have been tried in what you call the The Molly Maguire Riots. Thomas Border worked in what's known as the anthracite coal region of northeastern Pennsylvania. Anthracite is hard coal. It burns longer than and has fewer impurities than soft coal. Most anthracite coal in the U.S. is found in central and northeastern Pennsylvania. Many of the anthracite mining companies were owned by railroads, which used the coal for their steam locomotives and sold it for heating businesses and homes. There wasn't really a coal rush in Pennsylvania. It was simply industrial development creating demand  for coal and coal miners.

The Molly Maguires were a secret labor organization in Pennsylvania's anthracite coal area. You can read about them at Wikipedia, here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_Maguires

Sean Connery played a Molly Maguire in the movie The Molly Maguires, which is based on a true incident--a murder and trial in Schuylkill County, Pennsylvania in the 1870s.

Here's a link to a book on the Molly Maguires that was published in 1877. Thomas Border is mentioned once.

http://www.archive.org/stream/mollymaguiresori00deweuoft/mollymaguiresori00deweuoft_djvu.txt

Thomas Border might have been a marked man after he was acquitted of murder, and that probably prompted him to return to England. As Shakespeare's Falstaff is fleeing the battlefield, he says, "Discretion is the better of valor."

Which prompts the question: Do you know the cause of death for Thomas Border? His death so soon after being acquitted of murder makes me suspicious, though he might have died of natural causes or perhaps in a mine accident, if he worked again as a miner in England. But those also make me suspicious.

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