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Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 December 08 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jim, thanks for you reply

I think we may have the answer there.

thanks Meg ;D

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Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 17 January 09 04:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I also am interested in Hampton Birmingham.
In regard to native place I wonder if the authorities asked 'where did your family come from?' and because his parents came from Wolverhampton he gave the reply 'Wolverhampton' even though they had moved to Birmingham before he was born.
Also I wonder if Hampton is an abbreviation of Wolverhampton. Wolverhampton is often written W'Hampton so the 'W' could easily have been omitted in a transcription. OR it could be that the stafford accent was difficult to understand and only the 'Hampton' part of 'Wolverhampton' was heard/understood and recorded. 
If you use google maps you will find 'Hampton Street' and 'Great Hampton Street' in Birmingham. So the Hampton could be just the street name.
I will be interested to hear of solutions to this puzzle.
Argneli



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Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 17 January 09 10:22 GMT (UK) »
The "Black Country" accent was well understood in B'ham as there were so many living there.Wolverhampton was very well known to everyone as there was a lot of business between to the two towns.The word Hampton appears all over England in many place names.There isn't anywhere in B'ham called Hampton,the closest being Hampton-in Arden in S.Warks.Many of the outlying streets were so named as that is where they led,many being coaching routes,ie.Lichfield St,Walsall St & Bromsgrove St.The street names you gave(Little Hampton St. & Great Hampton Row being others) are some of the oldest in B'ham and probable led to outlying villages ie. Nechells,Duddeston & Edgbaston.

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Re: Hampton, Birmingham
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 17 January 09 20:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim
Thanks for your reply. You seem to have great local knowledge. I will give you more details of MY interest and then ask you if you would like to say what 'Hampton' might refer to. MY scenario is:-
Parents born at Wolverhampton. Married at Wolverhampton 1787. One ( or two) children born at Wolverhampton. Moved to Birmingham about 1790. Further children baptised at either St Martins or St Phillips. Parents' addresses when they died were Lancaster St and Loveday Street (1823; 1826).
Peter transported to Australia for crime committed at Bromsgrove Street 1817. On records for Peter - Native Place: Hampton. ( don't know if this was filled in locally or somewhere else in England - perhaps point of leaving)
Brother Benjamin transported to Australia for crime committed 1823 ( don't know location). On records for Benjamin - Native Place: Wolverhampton.
We wondered if the fact that Hampton was on the records was an transcript error or if Peter lived  in the area of the Hampton Streets that might have been known locally as'Hampton'. or...
I did find out that there was a 'ward' of Hampton created 1838 as one of the 'wards' of Birmingham.
Help appreciated
Argneli