Interpretating 1st World War Medal Card

[dee melody]

Would anybody be able to help me with the comments written on my Grandfather's War Medal Card.  We cannot work out if his Medals were taken off him or if he handed them back?  We suspect it's the former as there is no trace of his Medals.

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Deleted from 14 Star Roll 1HC/1/23.  Taken on charge by C.R.V. 33 d/8.10.19
Star scrapped 22.10.19

6 l/c Recs 1st Life Gds returned (2) 1914 Star 18.10.19

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Thank you
Dee

[km1971]

Hi Dee

If it still mentions the 'British' and 'Victory' - for British War Medal and Victory Medal - and there is no indication that they were also returned, then they must have discovered that he was not entitled to the 1914 Star, rather than he forfeited all his medals.

CRV = Certified Receipt Voucher, and is how they kept track of any returned medals. So there was a list, numbered CRV 33, dated - 8 (or is it 18?) of October 1919, which recorded the return of his 1914 Star.

"6 l/c Recs" will be "o i/c Recs", ie 'officer in charge (of) Records'.

The medals for WW1 were issued over a period of 2 or 3 years. This link gives the dates they were authorised, and how men qualified. http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp

I would have to see the MIC to see if there is anything about him getting the 1914-1915 Star instead. Or there may be another MIC in his name. Is a date for 'entering theatre' given?

Somewhere in Kew is a 14 Star Roll, numbered '1HC/1/23' with a line through his name. It may or may not have a reason next to it. You will have to visit Kew to find out.

HC = Household Cavalry

Ken

[dee melody]

Ken, thank you so much for the reply.  It's an absolute mystery as to where his Medals went.  There was a photo of him dressed in uniform with all 3 Medals on - very strange.  Anyway, here is the rest of the card.  I only quoted the 'correspondence'.

Medal                                         Roll                           Page

      Victory *                         1 HC/101B1                      56
      British                                     ''                             56
15  Star (SUPP)                      1 H.C./2a                         27

Theatre of War first served  (1)
Date of Entry therein           19/5/15

He always was a man of mystery.  I guess that will continue to be until we find out otherwise.

Many thanks again for your time.  It is much appreciated. 

Dee

[harribobs]

sounds like he has had the 1914 star taken back ( correctly) and a 1914/1915 star re-issued

[dee melody]

Thank you so much for your help.  It is really appreciated.

Dee