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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #54 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Vains, or Vainites was when, for example, you'd tripped up and hurt your knee in a chasing game, and you were telling your pursuer you weren't in the game for a moment.  I've heard it as Fains from elsewhere.

As for Life in a Blue Suit, well, that's the first time I've heard that one!  Probably from the Navy as you say.  What did it mean..............well, there you go?

Also, another one, when there was something particularly dramatic or melodramatic on the tv, my Mum used to say "kee, bly".  Anyone else heard of that?  I think it was a refined version of cor bl.imey, but was reserved only for melodramatic moments.

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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 22:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi all: Having spoken it all my life, I thought I knew my English...until I read this thread. Go figure, as they say while schlepping around New York.

I did look up "tad" (meaning "small amount") at the Oxford English Dictionary Online. The first written citation comes from 1940 and was recorded in volume 15 (1940) of American Speech, a scholarly journal. I was able to find the journal online at an academic library. "Tad" is included in a collection of expressions from late 1930s Tennessee.

Considering that the word was first recorded in Tennessee, but its use is being discussed on a website that is located in the U.K. and used in large part by people from the U.K., I think what we have here is an example of the chicken coming home to roost. That is: many of the early settlers of Tennessee were Scotch-Irish (as we call them in the U.S.) and English. When they settled in Tennessee, many of them lived in isolated rural areas, and I think the word is a relic of the early settlers, brought across the Atlantic. The other Oxford English Dictionary definitions of "tad"--such as a small boy--are recorded much earlier, although all of them do originate in the U.S.

I've attached edited images show the beginning of the article and the end of the article, with "tad" and many other Tennessee expressions.

Oh, yes, where I grew up in the U.S. (Pennsylvania) we also described low-temperature days as "Colder than a witch's t*t in a brass br*."

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DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 22:29 GMT (UK) »
They're fantastic John!

I just love "ankled" for walked!

 ;)

We also have "colder than a witches' t*t" in the UK.  My Dad used to say that.

Or Brass Monkeys!

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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi IgorStrav and others: Since you liked "ankle," here are the middle columns of the article I posted above. I'm partial to "crawling dandruff."

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ENGLAND (all Yorkshire but one)
SLATER: Ovenden, Halifax, and Massachusetts
DOBSON, LONGBOTTOM: Thornton (Bradford)
DRURY: Darton, Halifax, and Massachusetts
NEVIL(LE): Wigan (Lancs.), Darton
MEGSON: Dewsbury, Ossett
GARSIDE: Woolley, West Bretton

SCOTLAND
ROBERT HENDRY: b. 1856, Who-knows-where-shire, Scotland; 1882 to US
DEMPSTER, HOUSTON: Lesmahagow, Glasgow, and Massachusetts
GALBRAITH, MEIKLE: Kirkmichael, Ayr.; Hamilton, Glasgow, and Massachusetts

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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Crawling Dandruff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Kesneer Belgium/East London
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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 23:15 GMT (UK) »
Pumps, gym shoes, plimsolls, sand shoes is just one that comes to mind.

Any others?


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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #61 on: Tuesday 30 December 08 23:23 GMT (UK) »
1) In Sth Manchester, we used to say "barley" or "barleys" if you had to stop in a game for a moment and you didn't want to be caught.

2) And if you wanted to reserve something for yourself, you could "baggsie" it

1) I think I've they use something like reases/creasers for the game "immunity" round these parts (Glos).

2) In Lincoln, the verb was "to bags" as in, "I bags the seat by the window".
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Re: Another local expression - do you have a variant?
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 31 December 08 07:15 GMT (UK) »
All me eye and Peggy Martin - I've never followed this one up, but I'm sure someone will know who she was.

Then there's sky blue pink with a finny haddy border.
My gran used to use these way back in the fifties in Liverpool.

Yes, I used barley for taking a break in a game and bagsy for wanting something when I was little.

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