Staffordshire Census 1861 Look up please

[Noreen Rose]

I have just received a a marriage certificate of: Reuben Cornelius LILLY aged 22, Bachelor, Jeweller, address - Handsworth father Thomas LILLY Coach Builder to Emma INSULL 22, Spinster, address  Rugby, father James INSULL, Buider, at The Parish Church in Handsworth, in the county of Stafford. 21 April 1860. 
It is signed by the couple themselves and witnesses are:  William Staples ASHBY, M ASHBY, and Maria INSULL, which seem to be 2 sisters of the bride and a brother in law, as I found the marriage of William Staples ASHBY to Mary Ann INSULL took place 9 August 1851 at St Martins Worcester where I found another marriage that might fit this family of Thomas INSOLL who married Jane FEATHERSTONE 25 December 1853.

I wondered whether there is enough information here to find them on the 1861 census please?  I have no knowledge of Thomas LILLY father and this is an unusual surname.

The IGI shows Emma INSULL Chr 16 September 1838 at St Andrews Droitwich, along with:
Mary Ann  Chr 25 September 1831
Maria Chr 2 Jun 1833
Thomas Chr 22 Jul 1838
James Chr 11 Oct 1835

I contacted the Record Office at Worcester by email, and they have very kindly found the Parish Register entry for the marriage of Sarah PARTRIDGE to James INSULL on 22 June 1830 who according to the IGI were the parents of these children.  I have sent a cheque and SAE as they requested for a copy of the Parish Register entry, which I am waiting for.

Noreen York uk

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Noreen

In 1881 we have at 86 Spencer Street, Birmingham

Reuben C Lilley b 1838 Birmingham Jeweller
Emma b 1837 Worcestershire wife
Thomas J R b 1861 Birmingham son

They are sharing the house with

Charles D Taylor b 1829 Camberwell Surrey Dressing case maker
Susan b 1830 Somastown, Middlesex wife
Charles D b 1854 Kennington son
George W b 1865 Pimlico son
Arthur b 1860 Birmingham son

Source RG9/2166 folio 48

Unfortunately I cant find either Thomas or James

Willow x

[Noreen Rose]

Willow

Thank you for your input, and for still helping me my Aunt whose grand parents these are, is still with us and sent a lovely Christmas Card - now in her eighties.

Happy Christmas to you and yours

Noreen

[cath151]

Hi,
Have you got them in 1851?

Ho107/2049  124/21
Bristol Road, Edgbaston.

Thomas Lilly  head  mar  50  Coach Builder   Pershore?, Worcs.
Martha    "     wife   mar  50                           Birmingham
Cornelius R "  son            13                            "
Alfred R       "  son            8                              "
Hannah Ramsbottom servant  s  18  General serv.   Birmingham

Best wishes

Cathy

[cath151]

Same family in 1841

HO107/1141  5/38 3 Transcribed as Silly.

Great King Street, St George, Birmingham


Thos    40    Coach maker
Martha 40
Thos     17      "  app.
Martha  15
Edwin    13
Deodatus 9
Ketura      7
Ruben       4

All born county except Thomas and Thomas.

Cathy

[Noreen Rose]

Thank you Cath very much.  It is some info'  that my cousin might not have.

I passsed most of it to her.
 
Kind regards

Noreen

[janetmeryl]

My great-great grandfather was deodatus richard lilly- son of thomas lilly , coachbuilder of birmingham. deodatus was declared bankrupt in 1860 and moved to liverpool with his brother thomas, also a coach builder, to start a new business. any information on lilly family would be appreciated