Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather *COMPLETED*

[skyblueFF]

Hello

Many thanks. Alas the names William and Lillian do not connect as far I my researches have gone. Do please get in touch if you find any link to Julius,Gustav or Ernest.
Michael

[skyblueFF]

paolo 75

It is possible that your people changed their surname during the war.
Michael

[ShaunJ]

I think this is your Heise family in 1901, Paolo

RG13/1615/5/2 

18 Park Grove Road Leyton

George G Heise 31 printer journeyman Poplar
Marion 29 dress & mantle maker Poplar
Willie 10 Leytonstone
Elsie 8 do
Ethel 3 do
Lily 1 do

Free BMD Birth: Lily Cecilia Heise West Ham Q/e Dec 1899 4a 332
 

[toddd]

Hi Michael, I don't know how I missed this posting when I was looking up my Heise relatives. I followed your story with great interest and can tell you that you have only HALF the story but you certainly filled in a lot of blanks for me. You went down a number of blind alleys by assuming that Rudolf Gustav Paul Heise and Karl Willy Ernst Heise were two different people, however they were one and the same, my grandfather Rudy, but Sarah Jane was not my Grandmother. You had a lot of names but what you were missing was how they all connected. So now I can fill in a few blanks for you. You can e-mail me at ^(*)



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[skyblueFF]

This looks as if it could be an interesting day!
Michael

[toddd]

Hi Michael, thanks for the PM, contents noted. I don't have time now to give you all the details but things will start to become clear when you realise that Rudy Heise had TWO families. His first marriage was to your Great Grandmother Sarah Jane Hartwell and his second (bigamous) marriage to my Grandmother Ella (Ellen was a typo) Francis Henbrey. He married my Grandmother using his brothers name Karl Willy Ernst and after that as far as officialdom was concerned he was Ernst Heise. And where did he keep disappearing too?  Simple, He moved with his second family, my Grandmother, their first son Ernest and the twins Max and Ella (Millicent was her second name) to Dublin. I will post more later.

Peter

[skyblueFF]

This does make things a bit clearer. He married Ella only 2 years after he married Sarah Jane. When they lived in Birkenhead and the second family were born and Julius who died at 28 days they only lived a couple of streets apart. I wonder if his parents knew. I always thought that Ernest was his brother.
Oh there is alot to talk about. No wonder my grandmother and her sister would never talk about him.
Michael

[aghadowey]

Here's the family in 1911 Irish census-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Pembroke_West/Belmont_Park/11390

[skyblueFF]

Thank you for that, very interesting, and now we must add Dorothea to the family tree.
Michael