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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #72 on: Monday 26 January 09 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for keeping up the interest. I am expecting something in the post in the next few days. Once they had agreed to release the file I had to wait a few days until it became available then I had to get an estimate of the copying cost. Then to apply for it ,so it's all taken some time. Our post here out in the wilds of Wales doesn't come until about 11am. Hope I wont be dissapointed when it comes.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #73 on: Saturday 31 January 09 09:55 GMT (UK) »
THE GREAT UPDATE

So the file has arrived.This is the gist of it from the police report to the Home Office to support her application to be readmitted to British Citizenship. As I had suspected Sarah Jane was known as Mrs Paul for business purposes.
 They had a hair dressing business in Balls Road Birkenhead and the customers were of the better class, they employed 2 girls and also lived there.

In 1914 Rudolph Gustav Paul Heise was interned in a camp in Lancaster.
On his release he returned to Germany and was in interpreter with the British Forces. Sarah did not hear from him for several years until he started writing to her demanding money, which she sent. Eventually he demanded that she sold the business and joined him in Germany. When she refused he instigated divorce proceedings in Cologne. She had the business valued and sent him a third. So they were divorced in 1930 and in 1933 she applied for re admittance to British Citizenship. She did not have a passport and had never been abroad. She was well respected in the local community.
Florence was living with her.  Edith my grandmother was now married and living in Blackburn. My mother would have been 9 at this time but knew absolutely nothing.

So, quite satisfying really I suppose that now we know where he went it would be possible to find out about his death.
We still know nothing of the rest of his family brother Ernest and his family and parents Julius and Bertha.

Soon after this Sarah and Florence went to live in Parkgate on the Wirral, where they carried on the hairdressing business on the seafront and Florence became a respected breeder of Cocker Spaniels.
Thanks you to everyone who helped me with this.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #74 on: Monday 02 February 09 08:01 GMT (UK) »

Wow what a great result - nice to see that our hunches on internment were correct.  I wonder what happened to him during WW2?  You can't help but speculate as to whether he rued his decisioin to stay in Gemany during Hitler's rise to power and then during the 2nd war, or, whether his allegiences changed.  At least you now have resolution on that line of the family, unless of course you try to find living relatives in Koln / Germany!

Warm regards

David

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #75 on: Monday 02 February 09 12:33 GMT (UK) »
The Cologne City Archives (Historisches Archiv der Stadt Köln):
http://www.stadt-koeln.de/5/kulturstadt/historisches-archiv/

Although how much information they'll be able to give by mail I'm not sure.
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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #76 on: Thursday 05 March 09 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for the link.
I have found someone who speaks German and was going to ask her to contact the archives for me but I saw a photo in todays Daily Telegraph showing the building in ruins. Apparently it has fallen down.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #77 on: Thursday 05 March 09 18:11 GMT (UK) »
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I saw a photo in todays Daily Telegraph showing the building in ruins. Apparently it has fallen down.

see Topic: Cologne archives collapse.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,365875.0.html for more on this
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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 05 July 09 15:06 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

This message is primarily aimed at carol, but I'd appreciate any help from anyone!

Carol - Your note about William Gustave Heise intrigues me as that's exactly who I'm searching for, and matches where he lives etc.
I'm actually trying to trace his daughter. Lilian Cecila Heise (married into the Cutler family in 1926).

I wondered if you knew any more about William or Lilian, as I'm trying to locate when & where Lilian died and is buried.

Any help would be much appreciated,

Many Thanks,

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #79 on: Monday 06 July 09 07:47 BST (UK) »
Hello

I do hope you get some results from your search. You are the first person I have come across searching for a Heise I wonder if they are any connection to mine?
Michael

HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #80 on: Monday 06 July 09 18:22 BST (UK) »
Hi there,

Unfortuntanately, the only names I have are William & Lillian and they lived in the London area (mainly East End) during the first world war.

I have no idea of their origin, and even where they went to as I only have marriage certificates & birth records. Lilian appears to have not died in the UK though as there is no death record for her. (and she'd be 110 by now...)

Do the names match up with anything you have?