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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 27 December 08 17:16 GMT (UK) »

Looks highly likely doesn't it, fingers crossed for the 1911 census!  When do you expect to hear from the national archives?

Merry Xmas

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #64 on: Monday 29 December 08 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Happy New Year David and all

I am hoping to have an interesting New Year present from TNA in the next few days.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
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GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #65 on: Monday 29 December 08 12:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michael,

Thank you  and PLEASE keep us updated on findings.

This is a very interesting chase ;)


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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 06 January 09 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone
Just to keep things going.
Still waiting, but not really patiently for news from TNA.
In an idle moment I spent some time going through the Telephone directories on Ancestry and found MRS S PAUL , 28 BALLS ROAD, BIRKENHEAD. ( Ladies and children's hairdresser) From 1923 to 1933. So it would seem she went under both names because when she applied for re nationalisation she used the name SARAH JANE HIESE.
I wonder if she ever changed her name officially by deed poll. Would there be any records of that anywhere.
Edith married in Dec 1923 from 28 Balls Road, Fathers name Paul Heise (Hairdresser) in he presence of Sarah Heise and Florence Heise .

Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool


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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 08 January 09 17:01 GMT (UK) »
UPDATE
I have just received an e mail from TNA to say that the document regarding Sara Jane Heise (Paul) Nationality and Naturalisation: re admission is to be released and will be available from January 15 th.

As I live 200 miles from Kew I will have to order a copy so I expect it will be a couple of weeks before I know any thing. But it is progress.

I still want to know what happened to the rest of the family i. e his parents Julius and Bertha. Also brother Ernest and his wife Ellen plus their children twins Max and Millicent born in Birkenhead in 1903 and Joan born in Kensington in 1921! I find it odd that there are no records of marriages for any of them.

Incidentally Ernest was an assistant hairdresser on all the certificates I have so he did not progress very far. apart from his possible war service which I must pursue. Whereas Gustav was an assistant hairdresser at his marriage but on Sarah's death certificate he was a Master Hairdresser.  WOW!
If Gustav had syphilis and infected the baby Julius Paul who died at 28 days why was Sarah not infected?

Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 09:11 GMT (UK) »
HELLO EVERYONE

The 1911 census has come up with the goods

Heise Paul, Head, Hairdresser b. Germany
Heise Sarah, Household duties, b. Middlesex
Heise Anna Florence, School
Heise Edith, School
Heise Bertha, Widow

So they are all here living at Balls Road Birkenhead as a family .Julius has died. But where?
 I cant find Ernest and his family.

What happened next?

Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 10:28 GMT (UK) »
http://cheshiredirectories.manuscripteye.com/
 - interestingly in 1910 there's at 28 Balls Road a hairdresser - R. Paul.
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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 08:58 GMT (UK) »
http://cheshiredirectories.manuscripteye.com/
 - interestingly in 1910 there's at 28 Balls Road a hairdresser - R. Paul.
I am not sure who that is but it is probably Gustav using an English name probably for business purposes. He did seem to use variations of his full name which was Rudolph Gustav Paul Heise.
Michael
HEISE ,Germany, London and Birkenhead.
HARTWELL. London. Arundel.
CAPSTICK, Westmorland and Liverpool
BUTLER Liverpool
CHARTERS,  Walton Liverpool
GORE,Sefton, Liverpool .
CRUICE Roscommon and Liverpool.
ROBINSON, Westmorland.
ATKINSON,Westmorland.
DACRE, Westmorland.
FORSHAW,Sefton,Liverpool

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Re: Gustav Paul HEISE My lost Great grandfather
« Reply #71 on: Monday 26 January 09 08:10 GMT (UK) »

Any news yet on the national Archives file?  Doesn't the clock tick slowly  ;D