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[BumbleB]

Hi Cando:  You are a star, aren't you?  Yes, I've got Walter William's record from the website, and Allen Walter's.  John Edward's isn't available yet, but I found his entry on the www.ww2roll.gov.au site, as well as one for Allen Walter, and I know that Allen Walter is commemorated in Plymouth, and Walter William on the Menin Gate in Ieper, in Belgium.

Our Beatrice certainly did the rounds, didn't she?  Surely there couldn't be two people with the name Beatrice Ripley!  I think it must be the same person. 

I'll get on the Fawkham site - interesting about another child!  She had twins in 1909 before the family left Leeds, one of which died.  And it's strange that the other child got married in Leeds in 1931 - did she go to Australia and come back again, or did she stay in the UK?  Oh, more and more questions!!  But I suppose it would be very boring if we got answers to all our questions at the first attempt, and I also thought it would be easy to research the Archbell side of my family!

BumbleB   

[cando]

Why don't you go ahead and order it on the NAA website... I did for an aunt who had died and it didn't say it was open etc.  It turned up a fortnight later.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch.aspx
Search now as guest user and just search using ARCHBELL...it will bring up the three records...click on display.

Click on the Control symbol  VX91780  in the middle of the his record and it will take you to a new page, click request copy and proceed to purchase either to have it digitised on the website or a photocopy sent to you.

When you order you just tick the deceased box.

Cheers
Cando

[BumbleB]

Thanks again. 

I've looked at the Fawkham site and it's interesting!!  If the young Croft child was 8 in 1933 then he was born in 1924 (burial was January 1933) but Beatrice was still married to Hennessy in 1924!!  So who's child is he?  I'm guessing that he is really a Hennessy but changed his name when his mother re-married.

bumbleB   

[cando]

Thanks again. 

I've looked at the Fawkham site and it's interesting!!  If the young Croft child was 8 in 1933 then he was born in 1924 (burial was January 1933) but Beatrice was still married to Hennessy in 1924!!  So who's child is he?  I'm guessing that he is really a Hennessy but changed his name when his mother re-married.

bumbleB   

And who is John Edward's father...Walter William enlisted in 1915 and John was born in 1917 with no father noted.  Probably HENNESSY's wouldn't you say?

I do love the comment in Walter's service record...something along the lines of....I'm not going in the clink....or something similar   ? Spirited

Livens the research a little

Cheers
Cando

[BumbleB]

Ooh!  Hadn't noticed that - John Edward born 6 June 1917, Walter William embarked 26 November 1915!!!  I got that bit of info from www.aif.adfa.edu.au.  How did you know that there was no father noted?  Does that mean his birth is recorded somewhere?  Not that I mean to get a copy of it, as I've got the date.

Yes, I liked that bit in WW's record - but then again he was a Yorkshireman!!

Ah, well, at least I haven't found any murderers yet, so whatever was in the past is gone and there's nothing we can do about it!

BumbleB   

[BumbleB]

Sorry, Cando, I've gone back through and you've given me the birth entries already.  Too much information, too quickly!!  Not that I'm complaining. 

BumbleB   

[cando]

If you wish to purchase the birth cert...you can purchase for AUD$17.50 and immediately download from

http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home

Info on birth certs

*Date and place of birth;
*name of child and whether present or not;
*name of parents (including mother's maiden name); *occupation of parents;
*ages and birthplace of parents;
*date and place of marriage of parents;
*previous children of their marriage noting living or deceased;
*signature, description and address of the person who gave the information; names of witnesses;
*date and place of registration.

Agree about the past bit   I do have a bit of a chuckle when people say...oh that wouldn't have happened in my family ..or you have the wrong person....or some such   I often wish I could find some info to spice up my family history....and give a few a bit of a jolt.

Cheers
Cando

[BumbleB]

Am I looking in the wrong place - Historical Records - birth certificates only up to 1907!!

I've got one of two spicy bits in my trees - I've got an excommunication for having illegitimate children (my 4 x ggrandmother), at least two who married their deceased wife's sister (illegal in the UK until well after it all happened) and one of those was a Wesleyan Missionary in South Africa although to be fair I think had left the church by then!  Plus lots of illegitimate children, but so what!!   

BumbleB

[BumbleB]

Hi Cando:  I've had a look through my paperwork and doing a bit more sleuthing, and it's quite amazing:

John Edward was still living at 37 Whalley Street, Northcote in 1995, and probably died there as well.  My cousin here received a book in 1995 as a hard-sell scheme with a list of Archbells all over the world - John Edward is in there.

Beatrice Ripley Brown was a weaver by trade when she married Walter William Archbell in 1908.  And Walter William was a wood sawyer.

She was born in Hexham registration district in December quarter 1885.

John Thomas Brown married Elizabeth Ripley in Hexham district in December quarter 1880 (that's the only discrepancy - Elizabeth and not Mary)

As you very kindly provided me with a marriage entry for Beatrice and Edward Neil Hennessy, you couldn't do the same for Beatrice Ripley Hennessy and John Henry Croft, could you?

Thanks

BumbleB