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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 13 December 08 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Rosie - it isnt a problem, I was just agreeing !
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 13 December 08 18:07 GMT (UK) »
Fdgl65 - if you want an insight into the horrors of the quarterly returns of LROs to the GRO et al - try and get a book called 'A comedy of Errors' - its unbelievable how bad it was !
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 13 December 08 18:11 GMT (UK) »
What part of derbyshire was Eliabeth -or her brother born in ?

Basford reg district covers part of derbys/part of Notts

If you decide to ring Basford reg office it may be of assistance if you can tell them whhere you think the birth took place - it assists them in looking for sub districts.

Some of the basford reg are at Ilkeston

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 13 December 08 18:21 GMT (UK) »
If I have the correct John Arthur Hubbard (possibly Elizabeth's brother)

1901 census ref RG13 3147 110 34

he is age 7mths - p.o.b. transcribed as L.Mell

his actual p.o.b. should be langley Mill -which is in Ilkeston sub district -on Notts/Derbys border - heanor is a mile "up the hill"

They are living in heanor Derbys (Church St - many of my ancestors lived on Church St)

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 13 December 08 18:24 GMT (UK) »
Yep Suz you are right. The record isn't very well described so I was presuming he was born in Heanor in Derbyshire rather than in Nottinghamshire.

So am I right in applying to Basford for Elizabeth's birth certificate?
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 13 December 08 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Just to put my two penn'orth in!  I've sent in a correction to FreeBMD for the whole batch of Hubband.  Have to admit the scan used by the transcriber is pretty horrific, and Hubband would fit into the sequence.  As a transcriber for FreeBMD myself, it is sometimes very hard to determine what is printed, but we are told to type what we see!! If I have a problem, I do sometimes check with Ancestry as very often their scan is better.  But you gets what you pay for, and we all do the FreeBMD transcriptions for nowt!!  And sometimes we get it wrong, but at least with FreeBMD everyone has the opportunity to put it right, unlike some of the pay sites.

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #24 on: Saturday 13 December 08 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Too true. The 1841 censuses are horrendous to read sometimes.
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 13 December 08 19:20 GMT (UK) »
I've sent in a correction to FreeBMD for the whole batch of Hubband.  Have to admit the scan used by the transcriber is pretty horrific, and Hubband would fit into the sequence. 
BumbleB

Rosie already submitted a correction !

Cant agree however that the scan was that bad, and the whole block was unlikely to be such an unusual name?

I thought you guys cross-checked or had a 2nd check of things ?

Take my hat off to you for doing it tho ... I tried to help some years back with a local site and PRs, went cross-eyed !

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 13 December 08 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Newf:  Not sure that I agree with you wholeheartedly, but it is sometimes difficult.  I assume that you looked at the FreeBMD scan and not the Ancestry, which is a completely different kettle of fish!  In a previous life I was a secretary so have a little background in deciphering handwriting and typescript etc.  And if you do do transcriptions, especially in the 20th century, then more and more weird and wonderful surnames occur, as well as forenames.  There are a lot of surnames I just don't recognise (and I'm not just talking about European surnames). Anyway, as long as the correction was entered, it doesn't really matter, and I know that this one will be accepted.  And yes, each entry is double-entered, as you so rightly state, so there is cross-checking as a matter of course, although it all takes time.  In my own tree I've got an entry shown as Aichbell instead of Archbell, but I can't do anything about it as that is how it occurs in the index, and there is no doubt about it.  You have to provide evidence of a "printed" version, not just a "family history" justification in order to get a correction.

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Transcriptions and NBI are merely finding aids.  They are NOT a substitute for original record entries.
Remember - "They'll be found when they want to be found" !!!
If you don't ask the question, you won't get an answer.
He/she who never made a mistake, never made anything.
Archbell - anywhere, any date
Kendall - WRY
Milner - WRY
Appleyard - WRY