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Unable to find birth certificate
« on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Hoping someone can help as I have gone round and round in circles with this one.

I'm looking for Elizabeth Hubbard born January/February 1911 either in Derbyshire (her family came from there) or Bingley in Yorkshire (grew up in Bingley). Sometimes a new pair of eyes can be help to spot the record.

On my grandmother's marriage certificate dated 2 February 1938 it states she is 27 years old and a spinster. There are no other names given for her. Was it common in 1938 for people not to give their full names? I am wondering if Elizabeth was a middle name and hence why I can't find her birth certificate. I really need it to confirm her mother's name because her father died in WW1 and it would confirm that I have the right war death record. Her father was John Hubbard.

Many thanks
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
SHORT Henry Victor - Any info, Brighton area, WW1&2 serving soldier

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:13 GMT (UK) »
cant see owt for Keighly (Bingley's Regn Dist), but this might be a potential mistran (Derbyshire) ?

Births Mar 1910   
HUBBAND  Elizabeth     Basford  v7b  p262


PS. Also did a middle name search (prefix name with an '*' in FreeBMD) - nowt !
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I've looked at the photocopy of the record and it looks like Hubbard to me :)

The phonetic surname search on Free BMD isn't very good :(

I might get a copy of this birth certificate, even if it is just to eliminate it.
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
SHORT Henry Victor - Any info, Brighton area, WW1&2 serving soldier

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:23 GMT (UK) »
you can always make the GRO Order conditional on a known fact ....

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Added: Blimey, you think they would have been able to see it was Hubbard when its in the middle of a block of 'em !  :D
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »
I found the hubband one on freeBMD too, Newf beat me to it but I tried the Hub* as a search rather than the phonetic, it has been useful in the past.
GREENWELL - Middlesbrough
TURNBULL - Houghton le Spring, Coxhoe, Spennymoor
DEVEY - Pentonville, Stockton, M'bro
MOHAN/HUN - Stockton on Tees
SCRAFTON - Darlington
BROADBENT - Saddleworth, Ashton Under Lyne
HEMSWELL - Grantham, M'bro
SIMPKINS - M'bro
SIMPKIN - Little Wratting, Suffolk
MALLALIEU - Saddleworth, Ashton U L
GOODWIN - Macclesfield Forest
SUTCLIFFE - Heptonstall, Ashton U L
PLIMMER - Pontesbury, Ashton U L
CAMBRIDGE - Goulborne, Ashton U L
SIDDALL - Ashton U L

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:39 GMT (UK) »
lol From now on I will use the wild card search.

@ Newf - sorry what do you mean "make the GRO Order conditional on a known fact"? - order as Hubbard instead of Hubband cos we know that's right?
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
SHORT Henry Victor - Any info, Brighton area, WW1&2 serving soldier

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Good point - will the GRO ignore the spelling and just produce an Elizabeth with that Vol and Page from Basford ?

You have to order it with the given params - but I'd personally use HubbaRd and rely on the Vol & Page and some common sense, given its from an Index Page in the middle of a block of Hubbards ...

What I meant was that you can use their 'Reference Checking' feature to specify a fact like Father's name, Mother's, actual birthdate etc - if it doesnt match, they wont issue the Cert and you get a £4 refund ...

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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »
You might want to correct the FreeBMD entry - they have a correction option as well as a Postem feature to highlight the error ...
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Re: Unable to find birth certificate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 13 December 08 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Ah thanks I will use that feature because I know her father's first name was John as it's on her marriage certificate and I am pretty certain her mother should be Sarah Jane.

Re: Free BMD - I've seen other mistakes but have been too frit to correct them lol
HUBBARD - Derbyshire and Yorkshire
DAWSON - Yorkshire
BLANCHFIELD - Ireland and Yorkshire
SHORT Henry Victor - Any info, Brighton area, WW1&2 serving soldier