John LYMING/LIMING

[OLeeL]

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John Lyming, Liming, Lyning, sailed on the Nevis Merchant for Nevis Island in 1661.  He was indentured for eight years.  After 1669, presumably when his indenture had been served, he made his way to East Jersey, (New Jersey, USA) settling in Middletown. 
Sometime between 1670 and 1679 he married Prudence Wainwright, daughter of Thomas and Alice (Havens) Wainwright.  Their first son, John was probably born about 1680.

I wish to locate his family and I have presumed he came from Crondall.  He departed from Port of Bristol and our guess he was one of England's bad boys that were deported to the New World. 


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[lschrag1]

I am researching the Liming/Lemin/Lemon/Lyming surname in the US.  A friend asked me to research her Liming family and my search has led me to John Lyming of Crondall, England who emigrated to New Jersey via Nevis,West Indies.  I have quite a bit of research done on this family in the US and would be willing to share.  I still need more info from the English side.  Thanks

[leeliming]

Is there documentation that John Liming Lyming came to the New World from Crondall?  We have a Liming tree with John Liming, Monmouth New Jersey pro-generate and all we need is a connection to England.  We do have John LYNing departing Bristol 1661 on ship Nevis Merchant.  Not sure this is our John Liming.  Our guess is that John was one of the bad boys sentenced to the New World.  Anything you can offer would be appreciated.  I can offer a GED file of Liming from John Liming to the present. 

[janeh]

I have quite a few Limmings/Lymings in Alton from 1545 until the early 1700s - could they be connected? I notice that there were only 4 of that name assessed for the 1665 Hampshire Hearth Tax - 2 in Alton, 1 in Odiham and 1 near Kingsclere - non in Crondall.

You mention that they were probably ‘bad boys’ to leave England in 1661. It is far more likely that they felt unable to stay in a country where the religion was changing from that of the Parliamentary period to that of Charles II. It was called ‘The Great Ejectment when almost 2000 dissenting congregations and their pastors were forced to leave the parish churches that had been their spiritual home for several years and meet where they could, in secrecy.’

A member of the Frost family of Binsted left England and ended up in Oyster Bay, Long Island, New York, at about the same time and it was not long after that that some local people became Quakers. People took their religion seriously then.
Yours Jane

[klemons22]

I descend from the John Liming born in England 1647 and died in New Jersey about 1697. I descend from his 2nd son William and grandson Daniel Liming who migrated in 1780 to land that became Tennessee. I have done extensive work on the Tennessee family to find living descendants. I have been working on the first son John Liming II's descendants to find living members from his line.

We do have y-DNA test results from descendants of both John II and William's line. I run the Lemon DNA project at Family Tree DNA is the US and would love to find Liming or Leming men in England to also get tested so we could find if there is a connection between families. There have been over 160 Lemon (all varient spelling)  men tested with over 15 different family groups identified. Family Tree DNA will ship to all of Great Britain. 

John Liming, the immigrant, first documented record in the US is actually in Delaware getting a land deed in 1675 from the Gov of New York, and Delaware. I am wondering how a former indentured servant who's term was up in 1671 could have raised his standings so fast as to have enough money and standing to be able to purchase a landholding by 1675. I am trying to ascertain if the Delaware land was sold in England as was common in that time for new land developments.
This would put into question that the indentured servant from Nevis, John Lyning is actually our ancestor at all.