CathayB's 3rd Scavenger Hunt..Everyone Welcome To Join In.

[deb usa]

Hi Grant in Australia

This is Deb in USA  Welcome to Rootschat , we hope you have fun! err i am at a bit of a standstill as I have just finished dinner and am a bit stumped as to who to look for ...well not who to look for but where to look for them ...are you related to anyone on this search ?

deb ...fumbling around   

[cathayb]

nice to see you here grant.its a good scavenger hunt.unfortunately i think we are mostly going to bed now.folks will post more help for you here in the morning as to how to go about things.there are other new folk on here joined this time so you wont be alone?did you see your bakers surname stopping with some other travellers on here?
it would be good if we could find samuel smith again either with priscilla his first wife and then with athelia taylor.we need to know the children and then who the kids married?

[cathayb]

he maybe.we did find some bakers back along on this hunt but didnt take any notce of them as they were stopping with the ones we were loking for.grants bakers have been found in wiltshire and i have just one baker in my tree.whether they will connect is doubtful but grant really needs some help with his lot so i suggested he look on this hunt and see if he can see if the baker might be his or not and also learn abit about how we do it all.hes really interested in his romany forbears and hungry for any knowledge he can get.i got go to bed as i am whacked out.see ya tomorrow.love ya cousin. cathay

[cathayb]

1901
Gillingham
In tent
Back of Balmorral rd
Abigial BIRD head wid 62 hawker/ own account b not known
John son 26 single
francis dau single 21
Joe Fuggles 10
Joseph Russell 20
Mary Eastwood 20
Mary Eastman 17

all born Not known

travelling with them in caravans  are
The LEE Family ...headed by Walter Lee 62 hawker

The JEFFREY Family ..headed by John 35 travelling showman b Wiltshire, Devizes

The BAKER Family ...headed by Thomas 29 travelling showman n NK

SMALL Family ... head Henry 33 hawker b NK

PERFECT family head Henry 33 hawker b NK

2 more LEE Families;
Head Ambrose 21 hawker b Kent Charham


heres the mention of the baker tribe if you want to folow it up grant.whose his wife?what are the kids called.travellers often stop with family or good friends.one of them may marry into the family as we go on or possibly the wife is a child of the bird family.who knows til we check it out.you will have to work backwords though as thats the last cencus available as yet!!!!

[deb usa]

CATHAY ...wait before you go to bed ....

You mentioned that Athelia and joseph Cooper have been spotted on a census .... where and when please ...I cannot see Sam Smith amd Priscilla in 1871 nor can I see him with Athelia in 1891 or 1901 ....


Need some help here

deb ...pulling hair out!!!!! 

[cathayb]

well for a start his names joshua?and i think she married cooper first and he died young so then she married sam smith.i cant find the cencus either.but i do know someone thought she was athelia lee before she married smith when infact she was a taylor and i know she had a son william with joshua cooper.the troble now is the family had a big bust up and you will find them using the names cooper smith and taylor!!!!thta is where we are really having the trouble sorting out whose who??its our brick wall.thats why its so difficult.been driving a lot of us mad for ages.

[cathayb]

I am still trying to wade my way through the Taylors. A picture is emerging.
I know that Joshua Cooper  is the son of Mathias Cooper but I have to find him on a blasted Census!
Also I think he is the Joshua Taylor that is hooked up with Atherlia but its proving it.
Atherlia had Cinderella in 1868 no father but she was a Taylor.
Bella Smith was to a Samuel and a Athalia in 1879 Walton on Thames. Was this our Athalia I ask myself.
Another name that is interwoven with our families are the Tower's and yet so far no one has ever mentioned them
Carol

[deb usa]

ooo okay ..good to have more names ...wish we had dates and places though ...I have seen a BELLA Smith ...eeeekkkk but where?

okay so now we may have Atheliah under the name Taylor/Cooper/Smith or LEE ...Blimey!!!!


will have a look around ..I don't even know what census to begin with


deb

[deb usa]

totally off topic ...

while looking for cinderella b 1868 found this poor girl who dad was a collector of bad debts LOL;

Anna Maria Matilda Sophia Juliana Georgiana Lucretia Cinderella Martine Augusta Colgreave  Blimey