Tib Street Barracks Manchester

[EvoEvo]

In researching a family member I have come up against a brick wall - please can you help. On the census 07 June 1841 the family member was shown as being at Tib Street Barracks Manchester - as part of a detatchment of the 98th Foot north staffs regiment - Question is I can find no record of there having been a Batrracks in Tib Street - Can anyone tell me if they know of any of  records showing a milatary Barracks or was this "Tib Street Barracks" a census area name?

[liverpool annie]

Hi EE and welcome to RootsChat ! 

Well the barracks were there .... because the 79th Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders were there in 1839  !! I'm hoping one of the Manchesters will see this ... and maybe know where to look  !!

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0524/

Annie 

[EvoEvo]

Thanks Annie - it apears to have been a temporary Barracks from the info you attached - this is why I have been able to find no trace of it - have you been able to find out anything else about it?

Thanks a lot Annie
Tom

[Viktoria]

Hi EEvoI have looked on old maps of the Tib St. that I know which was and still is parallel to Oldham St. It Runs from Oldham Rd to Church St. or Cannon  St. There were many pet shops notably Bob Groves but that was more recently. If this is the area you mean it could come under St. Michael`s district . .T he maps I looked at are of the time .Of course there may be other Tib Streets in Manchester but this is  the only one I know of. There was a Church nearby on Church St. dedicated to St. Paul (not to be confused with St. paul`s New Cross which was later) So the area may be St.Michael`s district .St.Paul`s parish or eve n New Cross .There are no barracks marked. Happy hunting .Viktoria

[EvoEvo]

THanks for your help Victoria - I think Liverpoolannie has solved the problem thogh as she has turned up a reference to the Tib Street Barracks as being a temporary Babrrack prepared for the 79th Queens own Cameron Regiment - which was obviously still around in 1841 when my relative was recorded as beiong there.

Thanks Victoria

[Barbara.H]

Hi, "one of the Manchesters" reporting here! 

We had a small thread running about Tib St on the Lancashire board a while back - I got the impression that the Tib St barracks had been set up there as a smallish post for a bit of quick riot-quelling should the need arise...
Tib St was a centre for Chartist meetings and one suspects that the authorities were still a bit jittery for a few years after Peterloo

Here it is  http://www.rootschat.com/links/052h/   had links that might prove useful

  Barbara

[Barbara.H]

Stirring stuff here by a female Chartist!

http://socialistregister.com/socialistregister.com/files/SR_1999_Robowtham.pdf

at a meeting held at 'the Chartist Room' on Tib St, 1841. (opens as a pdf, do a search for Tib) from an article by Sheila Rowbotham.
  Barbara

[cathaldus]

Fascinating stuff for a Mancunian!!  A definite link to Peterloo,  Samuel Bamford (et al) and the Chartist movement.  As an aside,  the river Tib,  I understand, is (or was) culverted underneath Tib Street. 

Bill

[jason100]

I am also researching a family member who was in the 98th at Tib Street in 1841.  A source you may not have come across is the James Lewin letters ?  He was a private in the 98th also appearing on the census who wrote a number of letters (very sad ones !) to his family - the letters are on the web (search for Lewin and 98th).  They give some good context to life in the regiment and confirm where the regiment were for a number of years.  The letters support the chartist theory as many of the cities they were detatched to were associated with chartist uprisings.
Cheers,
Jason