Author Topic: Do you recognise this house? The Limes Porthill  (Read 25592 times)

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #63 on: Sunday 10 November 13 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ebba

Yes I quite agree it is amazing how the memory of places fades all too quickly.

     It came to me last night that houses also have souls and never die.   The old 1955 film "The Ship That Died of Shame" was based on that theme.      I do know that every thing that has ever happened is all recorded somewhere and can be recreated and when you follow it through and consider qantum mechanics it all makes sense.    All matter above absolute zero has movement, with particles flying around in their zillions.  So whilst a house would seem to be solid and devoid of life it does like everything else consist of leptons electrons photons etc and these are made up of vibrating waves.   

     As for memory it too never really dies.    Just consider the case of the late Gwen McPherson who recalled her life as Rose Duncan from 200 years ago.   When they took Gwen to England and to Somerset she broke down when she found her old cottage.

    The Limes will still be around somewhere.   It is just a question of putting on the right glasses when you look for it.     In the meantime it has certainly made itself known in these pages.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #64 on: Sunday 10 November 13 20:51 GMT (UK) »
It's a nice thought, Malcolm. I hadn't heard of Gwen McPherson but will look her up.

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #65 on: Sunday 10 November 13 21:17 GMT (UK) »
    The story of Gwen McPherson was part of Peter Ramster's research some 30 years ago.    There was a film shown on tv, but you can now find it on youtube.   Gwen's story begins in Part 9 here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_JrakDTonc then goes on in parts 10 and 11.
 
    It is also all in the book by Peter Ramster "In Search of Lives Past".    The clincher is the stone slab which Gwen drew under hypnosis in Sydney.  She had never ever left NSW until they took her to England.    Everything that happened was filmed and witnessed.     After she found her cottage, she then led the team across fields to a river or canal where she had once walked and stopped at a row of 7 cottages.   She found them but only 2 remain, fortunately the one that she had been invited inside and sat all that time ago looking down at the stone floor.     The farmer now uses the old cottages for his hens and the floor had been covered for at least a hundred years.     They were allowed to clean it out, and there beneath a century accumulation of muck was the stone with the same markings that Gwen drew in Sydney.
Hutton: Eccleshill,Queensbury
Grant: Babworth,Chinley
Draffan: Lesmahagow,Douglas,Coylton, Consett
Oliver: Tanfield, Sunderland, Consett
Proudlock: Northumberland
Turnbull:Northumberland, Durham
Robson:Sunderland, Northumberland
Dent: Dufton, Arkengarthdale, Hunstanworth
Currie: Coylton
Morris and Hurst: East Retford, Blyth, Worksop
Elliot: Castleton, Hunstanworth, Consett
Tassie, Greenshields

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #66 on: Monday 07 April 14 20:49 BST (UK) »
Wow! I hope I don't get into trouble for bumping this thread but I haven't been around for a while. I am thrilled that Staffsuk eventually identified the house, being one of the people who was so caught up in the original thread and tracing the mystery! Brilliant work and so glad we were on the right track all those years ago!

Now I want to know more about the Limes and how the photo album ended up in Sussex...argh mysteries!
smith : leage : emerson : anderton : hart : boyce : baker : weaver :
penycate : greenway : taylor : wellbelove : bulmer : fanning : turnham : whitehouse


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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #67 on: Monday 07 April 14 23:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Meriel
Yes, great isn't it? But I think we will never know how the album got to Sussex!
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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #68 on: Monday 02 March 15 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Hello, this is a long standing chat but I am fascinated to find pictures of the house I grew up in with my two brothers and sister. My mother moved there from a printing business in Burslem in approx 1965 and we all lived there until the early 80's.

Thank you to those who took the time to post pictures.

Paul Marshall

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 03 March 15 14:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul
How amazing! Have you only just seen the photo?
It must have been paradise for a small child, a big house and all that garden. Do you know what date it was demolished?

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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #70 on: Tuesday 03 March 15 15:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello and Yes! Literally just saw it on Sunday and just stared at it for ages. I can't thank you enough for posting this and starting off a fascinating chat.

The Limes was my whole world for the first 14 years, I climbed every tree and had the greatest childhood. The landlord, one Mr King, was getting older and the place started to fall into disrepair.

What is particularly poignant is the front door. I can recall my father coming in on a brutally cold March day. Winters then seemed so cold, we used to have frost on the inside of all the windows. I thought that was normal!  Anyway, he came in and collapsed there in front of me. It was the winter of discontent when all services were on strike. He had waited 6 months for an operation but his illness got the better of him. It was a sad loss because he was a senior RAF officer and survived 5 years of warfare in Bomber Command as a pilot. He was awarded two DFC's yet died just inside that front door. The sense of loss has stayed with me since hence the shocked and joy of seeing that picture.

I think it was demolished finally in the mid 90's. I found a picture of it (prompted by your post) of The Limes after a fire. Whether that was from vandalism or perhaps insurance reasons! I can't comment but its gutting to see the burnt wood thrown from the window. I'll try to add the pic here.  The front room on the right had the most extraordinary oak paneling and the doors were vast works of art. If they all burnt they some history was truly lost that day.

I notice now there's a housing estate there now. The houses are nicely made and fit in well but there seem to be so many where once there was just one. Incredible.

I'm babbling away here. Thank you so much, its enquiring minds like yours that make the internet an extraordinary tool.

Regards
Paul



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Re: Do you recognise this house?
« Reply #71 on: Tuesday 03 March 15 16:58 GMT (UK) »
The Limes following a fire. A great shame given the interior was full of carved road doors and floor to ceiling panels. PM.

Please click on the link to see the photograh taken after the fire, it is the 5th one titled "The Limes, Porthill soon after the fire"
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Way-Unseen-Newcastle-Lyme-Neil-Collingwood/story-22919062-detail/story.html