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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 December 08 17:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosie, its been very kind of you.  I have found the census sheet with Sarah Peckham.  It shows a Head of household as Mary Nailard b 1796 in Ringusom Surrey, and daughter Eliza Peckham b abt. 1839, and Sarah b abt 1835 as a visitor same place of birth.  I'm still trying to work out all the different combinations that could have happened! She looks like a good candidate though and gives me another alley (blind or otherwise) to have a look down.

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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 December 08 17:33 GMT (UK) »
Here it is:

1861 census  RG9/434  Folio  20 Page  33
Ash Common, Farnborough, Ash, Surrey

Mary A Nailard    head m 45 Laundress  Sussex Ringmore? (possibly Ringmer?)
Eliza Peckham     dau   s 22       "                 "
Sarah Peckham visitor s 25 Servant (dom)   "
Rosa Darling     servt   s 16 Servant of all work  Sussex Woking


Barbara   edit: just seen that you already have access!  It is always worth checking variations of the surname, though not sure how you can prove this is the Sarah you want  
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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 December 08 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neil

Well there is a Sarah Ann Packham baptised in Ringmer who could fit that bill on the IGI, so fingers crossed and Happy Hunting.  Come back if you want more help.   ;D

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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 December 08 20:00 GMT (UK) »
Hello Neil,

There are Packhams and Peckhams by the dozen in Ringmer.

This site has them summarised: www.ringmer.info
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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 December 08 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  :)

The 1871 census shows an interesting family at Uckfield Union Workhouse

There's a Sarah Weeks age 35 born Ringmer with, among other children, a John William Weeks age 10 born Ash.

RG10/1053 78 3

There's a marriage
Sep 1862 Hailsham 2b 103
Sarah Ann Packham - John Weeks

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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 December 08 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Bingo Tati - well found!

Barbara  :)
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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 December 08 20:44 GMT (UK) »
And here they are in 1881 - don't know whether the fact they have now a 9 year old son also called John rules them out - hopefully not completely ... I like the fact his stepdad is called John

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=21971837

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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #16 on: Monday 08 December 08 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  :)

The 1871 census shows an interesting family at Uckfield Union Workhouse

There's a Sarah Weeks age 35 born Ringmer with, among other children, a John William Weeks age 10 born Ash.

RG10/1053 78 3

There's a marriage
Sep 1862 Hailsham 2b 103
Sarah Ann Packham - John Weeks




Well done Tati  ;D  ;D  ;D

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Re: John William PACKHAM b 1861
« Reply #17 on: Monday 08 December 08 22:00 GMT (UK) »
So kind of you to dig in and find these leads for me. I've been stuck on Sarah for two years, and its fantastic to make some progress again!!

I'm starting to think that Mary Nailard in Ash (nee Packham) is not Sarah Anns mother after all, but perhaps an aunt.  (Bit of a cliche I know to send the unmarried pregnant girl to her aunt for the birth!).  I'm thinking this because I have found three girls Elizabeth b1830, Fanny b1834 and Sarah Ann Packham b1836 in Ringmer Workhouse in 1841. Perhaps the family fell on hard times or the parents died and there was nothing else to do with the children.

Anyway, Sarah Ann and Fanny appear in 1851 living in Brighton. Fanny is unmarried but has a 3m old daughter. She is a dress maker, but I cant quite make out Sarahs occupation from the census sheet.