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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 January 09 22:27 GMT (UK) »
Morning Kojak

Umm, yes it could be 'same'. Then it is likely 'quarry'.

Wonder if we could get a look see at a larger section of the certificate?

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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 22 January 09 23:11 GMT (UK) »
Been looking at this off and on since Pam put it up.

It's definitely Quarry - could the first word possibly be Slagg  (old style ff for s)  :-\



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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 23 January 09 00:57 GMT (UK) »
I too have been lurking and looking at this thread  :)

And Googling to try to find out the history of Corncockle quarry and whether it was ever known by any other name - including just a generic name.  No luck.

I say a 'generic name' because I wondered from the start if it might be Flagg referring to a quarry where flags/flagstones were obtained - the 'ff' at the beginning being the old-fashioned way of representing an upper case 'F' and the double g just a quirky spelling of Flag.

Googling finds that Corncockle quarry does produce flagstones (i.e. paving stones) e.g.
"The sandstones of the Permian or Lower New Red are usually of red and purplish tints, rather open and soft in texture, and of no great durability.  When carefully selected, however, both building-blocks and flagstones can be obtained from the formation, as may be seen at Lochar Briggs and Corncockle ..."

The only thing I could find about its history was that it must have been closed for a time (but for how long?) because there's a reference to Sir William Jardine having access to Corncockle Quarry on his estate; apparently he was fascinated by fossil tracks on the flat surfaces of the beds.  And it says that he re-opened the quarry in 1847.

If it was referring to a quarry where flagstones were quarried, then perhaps it could mean Corncockle itself or perhaps there was a minor outcrop nearby which was also quarried for flagstones but in a smaller way ...

Just a thought.

Of course, it could be a name - but FLAGG seems to be a fairly uncommon name and virtually unknown in Scotland.

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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 23 January 09 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Best suggestion so far, JAP.

I've just looked at the image on SP. The other captital Fs (February and Francis) on the page are written as F and singly.  I suppose the clerk might have decided to revert to the old style for just that entry.

There was also a tendency to double some of the ending letters - e.g. Aprill

I think I'll go search out some more baptisms for this couple to see if it's repeated at all.


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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #13 on: Friday 23 January 09 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Corncockle is not the only quarry that existed in the area. Just down the road from it was Redhill Quarry (sandstone), Corsua Quarry to the northwest, and there were a number on Gotterbie Moor.

They are shown on here http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html yet not on many other maps. ???

No names on many as they were just labelled as Old Quarry on the maps I have seen so far. Those that were seem to be named after the nearest property.

Jap may have a point about the Flagstone idea. There must have been a good seam in those parts to have so many quarries all in a line.

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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #14 on: Friday 23 January 09 01:22 GMT (UK) »
The previous baptism of a child of this couple was in 1795 and it says Quarryhouse.

I'll snip if anyone would like to see.


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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 23 January 09 01:28 GMT (UK) »
I would  :)
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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #16 on: Friday 23 January 09 01:33 GMT (UK) »
Here it is then:

I've also found a detailed F which I've included. The clerk seems to write them like this over the two pages that I;ve looked at except for that one entry - could it be a squashed/ hurried one


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Re: What does this say: Lochmaben Quarry name?
« Reply #17 on: Friday 23 January 09 08:21 GMT (UK) »
Yep, definitely quarry.

My take: Slagg Quarry

Could you get in touch with the quarry at Locharbriggs and ask them? They were very helpful when I had questions for them. They may have knowledge of other quarries in the shire.

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