Simkiss/Humphreyson/Rowley/Tolley - Pattingham

[Keomike]

IGI is the International Geographical Index, transcriptions of parish records quite good but LDS Church member entries more error prone!!!

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

Mike

[truebritmega]

(thank you for the IGI explanation)...

Im the grandson of an Ethel Tolley from Bilston.. who was married to William Thomas Smith
Her father is William Tolley 1860, pattingham who was married to a Mary Ann Tolley (dont know her surname yet ) thats fom the 1911 census..

Williams father is Thomas Tolley 1837, Pattingham

Thomas TOLLEY   Head   M   Male   44   Pattingham, Stafford, England   Ag Lab     
 Martha TOLLEY   Wife   M   Female   38   Bangor, Caernarvon, Wales       
 William TOLLEY   Son   U   Male   21   Pattingham, Stafford, England   Ag Lab     
 Thomas TOLLEY   Son   U   Male   18   Pattingham, Stafford, England   Ag Lab Wagoner     
 James TOLLEY   Son      Male   11   Quatt, Shropshire, England   Scholar     
 Clara A. TOLLEY   Daur      Female   5   Pattingham, Stafford, England   Scholar 

Dwelling Nurton
    Census Place Pattingham, Stafford, England 


I have then looked Thomas up again and found ...

THOS. TOLLEY
Christening:  05 FEB 1837   Pattingham, Stafford, England
Parents:
Father:  JOHN TOLLEY 
Mother:  SUSANNAH 

But it doesnt have Susannahs maiden name...
is this your susannah?

Surely there cant be two, Thomas Tolleys born 1837 in Pattingham?

I dont know much of the tolleys yet so....

as for Me, Im a Smith...wolverhampton born and bred, with direct family being from wolverhampton and bilston

[truebritmega]

Im also having trouble finding the maiden name of Martha Tolley (Thomas's Wife) from my list up there, any ideas?

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Truebritmega

From FreeBMD

Thomas Tolly (note spelling) married Martha Edwards Sept quart 1857 Wolverhampton 6b 525

I cant see the transcript on the Wolverhampton Archive site though so it might be worth ordering the certificate to find out Marthas fathers name

Willow x
(another Wulfrunian born & bred)

[truebritmega]

(ooh always nice to meet another wulfrunian!)
well done and ty! I couldsnt see it on the wolves archives site (but then again im not that good @ searching this stuff yet lol )
I guess we cant be sure its the same thomas tolley/tolley, till i get the cert huh...

the other thing that bothers me, from the names in the list, is that martha shows as born in pattingham on the one census, but bangor on the other?

[truebritmega]

and im still wondering if my Tolleys are the same ones as yours? lol surely it cant be a coincidence?.. Pattingham aint a big area LOL I know that I fitted some gates onto the school there many moons ago lol

[Willow 4873]

Hiya Truebritmega

I'm pretty sure its the same one as its a year or two before the eldest childs birth and they probably married at Pattingham church which is why its not on the W-ton site

I'm pretty sure its all the same family as you say Pattingham aint big

Willow x

[mezentia]

Hello Rachel

I've quite a few relatives from Pattingham, including a few Humphrestons that you found on my cousin Trevor's site http://www.book.co.nz/dovey9.htm

Our link is through the Dovey family.

William Dovey (1844 - 1875) married Mary Humphreston (1843 - 1907). They had three children:

John Dovey (1871 - 1934)
Bertha Dovey (1873 - )
William Dovey (1876 - )

Mary's parents were Thomas Humphreston (1802 - ) and Hannah Dee (1798 - ). Hannah and Thomas had a son Thomas, born 1838, and Hannah had several children before she married Thomas:

William Dee (1824 - )
Sarah Dee (1828 - )
Elizabeth Dee (1831 - )
Jesse Dee (1832 - )

I've not tracked down a previous marriage for Hannah yet.

Hope that helps

David

[truebritmega]

yes i agree, i think it is the same one too.. i looked at my details after I read your post, and yes, the marriage is a year or so, before the firstborn.. but I wonder why one census has her born at (martha i mean) at pattingham and the other as at Bangor?.. I want to try and find what William (1860), Mary Ann, what her maiden name was....

and as your a fellow wulfrunian, who knows maybe i''ll catch you at wolves archives one o the days LOL