Simkiss/Humphreyson/Rowley/Tolley - Pattingham

[truebritmega]

well I did order the marriage cert for thomas tolly/martha edwards but when I got there i was told that there wasnt a match, there was a martha edwards marriage, but the husbands name wasnt thomas tolly... curious?
she did say that perhaps it was actually staffs records office and not the wolverhampton as they use some of the the same numbers

[Willow 4873]

How strange! That is the only Thomas/Martha marriage I can find on FreeBMD that is even close

Your best bet is to order one of the childrens birth certificates to clear this up

Willow x

[RachelK]

Very pleased to see replies to this post, I've only just noticed as for some reason I'm not getting emails to tell me about new posts? Must check my settings.

Anyway, Keomike, I have no Kendricks from Pattingham. Mine were from Worcestershire and moved into Wolves around 1870 so I'm afraid we don't have any connection that I can see.

Truebritmega - It definitely seems you descend from the John Tolley and Susannah Humphryson I have mentioned, meaning you are related to myself and Willow somehow. Probably in the respect we may share great time however many grandparents on the Humphryson side.

Mezentia - Thanks for your info. Your Thomas Humphreston who married Hannah Dee, you have said he was born 1802. Is it possible he is this one from IGI? Thomas Humphrison ch. 29 Nov 1801 (Thomas & Mary)? If so then we are also related by the looks of things.

It is a complicated line, particularly with the involvement of the Newall alias, but I hope we can unravel it if we help each other. Look forward to hearing from you all again, I will have to start adding all this speculative info to my tribal pages tree as it will make it easier to work through.

[truebritmega]

yup Rachel it seems so (gives my hmmm distant cousins? lol  a cuddle, nice to meet the fam lol ) and yep i guess the next stage or me will be to track the birth of one o the kids down, I was lookin at Pattingham, online the other day, and even today the population only stands at around 2300 lol, too many tolleys there way back "not" to be the same fam?

[RachelK]

LOL a lot of my family live now in Perton, small village very near Pattingham. And yes they are still quite small places. When I've added the Humphreysons and Tolleys etc to my tree I will send you the link so you can have a look. See if we can be any help on the rest of your Tolleys too. As already mentioned, the IGI (familysearch) is very useful but only extracted entries really. Submitted ones aren't so reliable, as people easily make mistakes.

Oh and I am getting notifications now thankfully, so shouldn't miss anymore posts!

[truebritmega]

oh thank you! i'll look forward to the link1 the tolleys are my only real links to my dad, as his, my, surname isnt as easy to trace much (smith) LOL
(Ethel Tolley being his mom)

and yes, perton,pattingham etc are all small (i know them well, my bro lived in perton, and i used to go thru pattingham daily on way to college in penkridge  , even built some gates to a school up in pattingham once lol )

and im glad your getting notifications again, nice to meetcha
(Andy)

[esn123]

Hi,
I have just come across your messages, and noted you were looking into the Tolleys of Pattingham. I have John Tolley who married Sussanah Humpreston in 1826. John and Sussanah are my 3x great grandparents. Would be interested to hear from any body.

Best wishes
Elaine

[RachelK]

Hello Elaine, welcome to rootschat.

It would seem yourself and Andy are cousins then, and you are probably related to Willow and myself. Funny, I was looking at this thread earlier wishing I had the concentration to work on my tree right now! Do you have any further back on Susannah Humpherson?

As you might have read in this thread I have been trying to trace her and her siblings, and the family also used the alias Newell. Any info you can share will be very helpful, thanks.

[esn123]

Hi,
I have not realy been doing this side of my tree for that long. I would love to be able to help on Sussanah but I have not followed her side yet.  I am trying to fit together other Tolleys I have in Patteningham to John, I am sure they are his brothers and sisters but as yet cannot prove it.

Will keep trying and will let you know any progress.

Elaine