missing gt grandad

[landgirl]

LANDGIRL.would some one look up1891census for sculcoats ,george place.dock st.
 FRED MILLER (HEAD)age 48. b/russia .seaman
maria miller.wife age 42,born/Germany.dressmaker from home.
 albert.aged 14 Marias son, surname un readable maybe Ludwig maria's maiden name, ancestry say LADERAL,nothing like it.
 Louisa unreadable as above. aged11.true daughter of fred and Maria
1901 census. maria had changed her name to MARY LAVERACK. living in
Welton TERrace.Wassand str. Hessle rd also a fred miller lodged there .by then was married.his name was laverack Albert was my grandad.my maiden name was Laverack. seems lik gt grandad had vanished,fred the lodger was 31 a british subject reg,searched over 30 yrs to find this enigma.MARIA ,was buried in hullas Mary miller. in 1922 eastern cemetery LANDGIRL

[suzard]

1891
George Rd
5 Dock St
Sculcoates
Fred Miller Husband M 48 Seaman Russia
Maria ditto wife M 43 Dressmaker germany
Albert Ludwig step son 14 Scholar Hull Yorks
Louisa ditto    ditto daughter 11 Scholar Hull Yorks
RG12 3933 97 30

at least that is how I read the image

Suz

[suzard]

1901
9 Welton terrace
Mary Laverack head W 40 Dressmaker own account at home Germany (B.S. )
Fred Miller Boarder S 31 Docker (lab) Russia (B.S.)
RG13 4506 130 9

B.S. is not in enumerator's writing -assume it was added afterwards when ensus return being checked

Suz

[Ecneps]

Hi Landgirl & Suz,

I read the 1891  as Maria, not Mary, and the children's surnames as Ladroig or Lodroig  -  here's the image, you choose!

     

Barbara 

[suzard]

Barabara -it is definately maria

and possibly Ladvig ?

I wonder-if with the foreign accents the enumerator could understand what was being given as the name and age

Also wondered if the 1901 are the same Maria and fred??? Ages given misunderstood?

Could this be Albert in 1901
9 Crowther Buildings
South Parade
Hull
Yorks
Albert laverack Head M 23 Marine Fireman
Lillia wife 24
Mary E daughter 3
Albert son 2
Alfred F(?) 3mth
all b Hull Yorks
RG13 4504 117 16

Suz

[suzard]

By the way - in 1901 Fred miller is a Boarder -not a lodger

there is a difference

a Boarder lived "as family" -took meals with the family etc

a lodger - didn't live as family - basically a place to sleep and  would only have meals as requested and paid for

Suz

[suzard]

Just looking at Albert's name in 1891

Think it starts La
then what looks like a "d" is not like the other "d"'s on the page

wondered if it could be "Lacverig"

Suz

[Ecneps]

Looks like Albert in 1901, Suz  

Don't know about the parents, I noticed the age difference, but Fred is given as single and listed below, whereas in 1891 he was head of family, possibly his son from an earlier marriage, as he should have been 58 in 1901??

Here's Albert's marriage from Yorkshire bmd:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0500/    you can order it through that site if you wish
1897   Albert LAVERACK to Lilias  RICKETTS  Hull Register Offices

Just checking the site for Albert & Louisa's births

[Ecneps]

Can you see them in 1881??  Wondering what the surname for children was then, as unable to find them on yorksbmd births