Need help deciphering shorthand doc

[derby girl]

True, but if I knew it was a note that I was keeping for years and wanted to be able to read when I was 70, I might well do a belt and braces job and add a few vowels.  Yes, I know I can read it if I write on plain paper but never feel quite comfortable about it, especially if it's something I want to keep. I take minutes and sometimes there can be contention six months on, so I want to be able to say if problems arise - yes, that is what was said.
Derby Girl

[Redroger]

If the document IS from the 19th century then surely it cannot be written in Pitman new era shorthand, though as an outsider who did one term of shorthand at night school in 1960 and has forgotten the little I learned, the shapes look like Pitman to me.

[SaxonbyChemnitz]

>Sehr geehrter Herr Herms,
>
>das Schriftstück zeigt eine geometrische Kurzschrift, die zu der
>genannten Zeit in Deutschland fast keine Rolle mehr spielten.
>
>Ich würde aufgrund der Diakritika auf das englische System Pitman
>tippen. Der Verlag Pitman existiert noch (in Bath und wahrscheinlich
>auch in London). Versuchen Sie es doch dort einmal.
>
>Beste Grüße
>Boris Neubauer
>

[SaxonbyChemnitz]

He think, that the Pitman is.
Pitman company exist by London, that is the part to ask.
Bye Lutz

[SaxonbyChemnitz]

Sehr geehrter Herr Hermsdorf,

das Stenogramm ist in Pitman´scher Stenographie geschrieben.
Jocob Pitmann (Baumeister und Architekt und Bruder von Isaak Pitman) ging 1837 nach Süd-Australien und führte dort die Pitman'sche Stenographie ein.
In Deutschland kenne ich nur einen Herrn, der in der Lage wäre, das zu übertragen. Könnten Sie mir mitteilen, welchen Umfang die Stenogramme haben? Wenn ich den betreffenden Herrn frage, will er immer erst wissen, wieviel Seiten es ungefähr sind.
Ein m.E. leichterer Weg wäre sicher über die englische Steno-Gesellschaft:
Incorporated Phongraphic Society (I.P.S.), Patron: Mrs. Margret Pitman-Miller. Chairman ist:

Mrs Mary Sorene, FIPS (*)

Rosemarie Hänsel
Sächsische Landesbibliothek -
Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Dresden
Stenographische Sammlung
01054 Dresden
Besucheradresse: Zellescher Weg 18
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[SaxonbyChemnitz]

Hi, only five minutes, my so ......

[SaxonbyChemnitz]

The Dresden Museum say, that is in Pitman, shorthand
Jacob Pitmann going in 1837 to south-Australien, there he maked the shorthand public.
In Germany, she know only a translator, and this man ask , how many pages, because the price is important.
She say, better we ask the
Incorporated Phongraphic Society (I.P.S.), Patron: Mrs. Margret Pitman-Miller. Chairman ist:

Mrs Mary Sorene, FIPS (*)

Rosemarie Hänsel
Sächsische Landesbibliothek -
Staats- und Universitätsbibliothek Dresden
Stenographische Sammlung
01054 Dresden
Besucheradresse: Zellescher Weg 18
Telefon: +49-0351 4677-542/541
Telefax: +49-0351 4677-731

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[LizzieW]

If the document IS from the 19th century then surely it cannot be written in Pitman new era shorthand, though as an outsider who did one term of shorthand at night school in 1960 and has forgotten the little I learned, the shapes look like Pitman to me.

Roger - I learned Pitman's shorthand in 1958 so definitely before Pitman new era and it had been around in the mid 1800s.  Odd that my cousin, 5 years older than me learned Gregg's shorthand.

[Redroger]

Perhaps I didn't learn Pitman's because there were too many distractions, I was 50% of the males in a class totalling 25!