1861 / 71 Lookup Request for Sarah Ann Robinson

[pnewbery]

You are almost certainly correct about the birth record Tati. I don't know how I missed that one myself!

Anyhoo, even if I do get Beatrice Annie's birth cert, there's no guarantee the father's name will be given.

Got to be done though.

Thanks again

Paul

[pnewbery]

Well I got my Grandma's birth cert and sure enough, no father's name is given, so she was born as Beatrice Annie Robinson. Must have had her name changed when Pa Grocock married Sarah Ann Robinson,

Hey ho. Looks like I'll never find out about that leg of the family. 

Cheers

Paul

[Tati]

Bad luck indeed! No clue in her 2nd middle name E, I suppose? 

[pnewbery]

Perhaps the "E" is a clue, but I'm afraid it means nowt to me.

Thanks anyway.

Paul

[Gooders]

My thanks to all on this message chain,

I am currently researching those individuals named on the Flamstead War Memorial, including one Walter Robinson, of the 4th Battalion the Royal Fusiliers, who was killed 27th August 1918.

I had some information but no record of the family of David & Anne Robinson (as posted by Tati)

What I did have was :

1901 Census

Church Street, Flamstead

Ernest Robinson   Head   30   Farm Labourer (General)      Flamstead
Emily Robinson   Wife   32   Straw Hat Sewer         Flamstead
Ralph Robinson   Son   11               Flamstead
Hugh Robinson   Son   6               Flamstead
Walter Robinson   Son   2               Flamstead

and a note in the Flamstead Church Records of another Walter

St Leonards

Walter Robinson was baptised 20 November 1898, parents were Walter & Maria Ellen of Flamstead

So many thanks for that.

Simon

[Tati]

and a note in the Flamstead Church Records of another Walter
St Leonards
Walter Robinson was baptised 20 November 1898, parents were Walter & Maria Ellen of Flamstead

I have a suspicion that it's the same Walter but dad's name is wrong on the christening record and mother's name is wrong on the 1901 census

There doesn't seem to be another Walter born Flamstead on the 1901 census and tracing the above family back to 1891, this is what I find:

1891
RG12/1125 54 19
Flamstead, Ivy Cottage
3 rooms occupied
Maria E Robinson, head, mar, 23, Straw Plait Sewer, b. Flamstead
Ernest R, son, 1, b. do.

(there isn't a birth for a Ralph, but there is one for an Ernest Ralph in Hemel Hempstead 1890)

Also, in 1911, the family seem to be Ernest, Ellen, Hugh, Walter and Vernon.

Marriage Maria Ellen Bone to Ernest James Robinson Dec 1889 Hemel Hempstead.

 

[Gooders]

Hi Tati,

Very many thanks for this.

I did actually spend some time this morning tracing more of the family of David & Anne Robinson (each b. 1834) and have identified them in the 1861,71,81 and 91 censuses (by which time their children had left home and they had moved to Luton).

Sadly, bar a Walter W Robinson (born 1853), I couldn't find another Walter who might be my WW1 casualty.

This, therefore, ties in well with the news you have sent me this morning.

Although how we are supposed to find things if there are errors in names in both the Christening Record and the 1901 census - I don't know <grin>. You obviously have a much more suspicious mind than myself when I thought there were just too many differences to make a match.

This really helps to take me forward with the details of this man - something for which I am most grateful.

Now I must go and carry on looking at the remaining fifty one casualties ....... no rest for the wicked !

Simon