Fred Taylorcompleted

[jaypear]

Hi

Can anyone help with lookup for above.  He was born June 18th 1885 around Bury.  Greenmount, Summerseat, Tottington Walmersley area.  A birth record and or 1891 or 1901 census record would be great.  I believe he emigrated to the States as a young man.  I believe his father was John Taylor and mother Annie Levi.

Jenny

[mosiefish]

Hi,

There are plenty of Fred Taylors born around that time in Lancashire, However this one looks the best match.

374 Ramsbottom Road,Greenmount, Tottington Lower End

Betty Whitehead, Head, W, 59, Edgeworth
Thomas, Son, S, 27, Labourer, Walmersley
Richard, Son, S, 23, Labourer, Tottington
Sarah Jane, Daur, 20, Weaver, Tottington
JOHN TAYLOR, Lodger, Widr, 31, Labourer, Summerseat
FRED TAYLOR, Lodger, S, 5, Tottington

Regards,
Mo

[mosiefish]

And I think this is him in the 1901 census with his Grandparents unless you know differently.

97 Albert Road, Farnworth, Lancashire

John Taylor, Head, M, 65, Herbalist Sub Med, Own Account, Home, Derbyshire Twiston Mill (Ripley crossed out)
Mary, Wife, M, 70, Cheshire Runcorn
FRED TAYLOR, Grandson, 15, Cotton Cloth (Finisher has been crossed out), Lancs Tottington.
RG13/3600 Folio 30 page 51.

Regards,
Mo

[jaypear]

Thanks for that.  I am looking this up for a friend in the States who is a descendant of Fred.  She told me that she believed his mother Annie Levi died young and he was brought up by grandparents.  The information that you have turned up fits in perfectly with the info I have found out.

Can I use your brain cells further?  We have been trying to find out a little more about Annie Levi.  We found her marriage details and sent off for the certificate.  There was no mention of either of her parents on it and her place of birth was given as Windermere.  We can only find one reference to her as a lodger in 1881 census, lodging with her future husband's brother and his wife.  I can't find any birth references and with a surname like Levi I wonder whether she may have been born in another country despite putting Windermere as her place of birth.  Any ideas?

Jenny

[rosie99]

Hi

Are you sure the marriage cert gave a place of birth as Windermere - UK certs normally give place of residence when married and not place of birth.

Rosie

Ignore this I presume you meant place of birth from the 1881 census 

[jaypear]

I have not seen the marriage certificate myself as yet but hope to soon.  As you say Windermere is given on 1881 census as place of birth.  I was told that it also gave Windermere as place of birth for Annie Levi on the marriage certificate.  Unfortunately I shall have to wait to see a copy of it as am unable to access my email at present.  Computers huh.

A quick question to Mo.  Was it the 1891 census that gave Fred lodging with his father at Betty Whiteheads?  I have tried looking on the ordinary census site but am unable to pick it up.  I would like to print off the actual entry if possible.  Can you tell me where you found it?  Also on the 1901 census you have put John Taylor as grandson should it be Fred.

Thanks again

[mosiefish]

Hi,

Sorry I have been at work and was just looking for a possible Annie. 

The reference for the 1891 is RG12/3128 folio 30 page 57
The Whiteheads are transcribed as Whitchrad  on A*****y

And yes the 1901 census is Fred not John - I was probably cross eyed. Apologies.

Will have a further look into Annie there is always some explaination hiding.

Regards,
Mo

[rawley]

Hi Jenny!

Hope you don't mind my putting in my two-cents worth:  If you look at Lancashire BMD, you will find an ANNIE LEVI marrying a JOHN TAYLOR in 1881, Bury Registry Office.  Sounds right, doesn't it?

Kay in USA

[jaypear]

Hi

Yes we picked that up and sent off for the marriage cert, however there does not seem to be any trace of Annie before the 1881 census and her marriage in 1881.  Her son was born Fred was born in 1885 but I think she died some time after that as in the 1891 census he was staying with his widowed father.  I will try to find her death in Ukbmd perhaps a death certificate will reveal more of this woman of mystery!

Jenny