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MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 21:49 GMT (UK) »
I have Millis ancestors from Kingston-upon-Thames in London, but I am getting the idea they may have originated in Devon in a village name something liked Melhuish which I did not find in the atlas.
I also have Mellis ancestors from the same area of London and I am beginning to wonder if both families had the same beginnings.
I looked up the crest of the Mellis, Millis and Melhuish families and they all apparently have the same three fleur-de-lis emblems.
Any ideas on my Millis and Mellis families.
My earliest Millis is Thomas Millis (a butcher) who was baptised in Kingston-upon-Thames in 1714, he was a son of Richard and Jane Millis.
My earliest Mellis is John Mellis who was born in 1766, I do not know where, he married Ann Sparks in 1789 in Holborn, St Georges and died in St Helena
in 1820 (he was an assistant surgeon in the Indian Medical Service)
I would love to have any insight of both the Mellis and Millis families and also to know if they are from the same family originally
Robin
New Zealand
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: Millis, Mellis, Melhuish
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 November 08 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Melhuish is certainly a name from Devon,  Google threw the name up in Genuki family names on Devon.
Just a quick search on Google shows this lot...

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonFHS/Surnames.html

 Have you tried the One Name study site or this Melhuish Family site on
http://x-stream.fortunecity.com/pasteur/144/

The Devon Family History centre has a family Bible but that would require a visit to  the Tree House in Exeter.

http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/index.htm

Take a look at
 http://genforum.genealogy.com/melhuish/

and theres this too
 doesnt specify exact location but  the one after that does. Near Exeter.

This was a on heraldry site

The surname of MELHUISH was a locational name 'of Melhuish' a small place in County Devon. Surnames derived from placenames are divided into two broad categories; topographic names and habitation names. Topographic names are derived from general descriptive references to someone who lived near a physical feature such as an oak tree, a hill, a stream or a church. Habitation names are derived from pre-existing names denoting towns, villages and farmsteads. Other classes of local names include those derived from the names of rivers, individual houses with signs on them, regions and whole countries. The earliest of the name on record appears to be John de Melewis who was documented in the year 1242 in County Devon and Elina de Malhwys was documented in 1274. Many factors contributed to the establishment of a surname system. For generations after the Norman Conquest of 1066 a very few dynasts and magnates passed on hereditary surnames, but most of the population, with a wide choice of first-names out of Celtic, Old English, Norman and Latin, avoided ambiguity without the need for a second name. As society became more stabilized, there was property to leave in wills, the towns and villages grew and the labels that had served to distinguish a handful of folk in a friendly village were not adequate for a teeming slum where perhaps most of the householders were engaged in the same monotonous trade, so not even their occupations could distinguish them, and some first names were gaining a tiresome popularity, especially Thomas after 1170. The hereditary principle in surnames gained currency first in the South, and the poorer folk were slower to apply it. By the 14th century however, most of the population had acquired a second name. Later instances of the name include Robert Mellish who married Anne Smith at St. Michael, Cornhill, London in the year 1674. The associated arms are recorded in Sir Bernard Burkes General Armory. Ulster King of Arms in 1884. Registered at Taunton, County Somerset, and County Devon. In the Middle Ages heraldry came into use as a practical matter. It originated in the devices used to distinguish the armoured warriors in tournament and war, and was also placed on seals as marks of identity. As far as records show, true heraldry began in the middle of the 12th century, and appeared almost simultaneously in several countries of Western Europe.


AND THERES IS ALSO THIS

    There's a village in Somerset called Huish as well as roads and
    districts and a college (Richard Huish College, Taunton). I've heard
    it pronounced as "hue-ish".
    Literally, 'household'. Used interchangeably with OE hid, 'a hide of land', it later came to denote a measure of land which could support a household. OE hiwisc, The Somerset villages are, Huish Champflower OE hiwisc, Z family-name
    Huish Episcopi OE hiwisc, L episcopus
    There are also the villages of Cushuish and Rodhuish The Ordnance Survey gives 31 places with Huish in the name.

    Regards Stan Mapstone
    www.mapstone.org


The name Melhuish originated about the year 500 when a bloke Maegla took up a hide of land somewhere near Tedburn St. Mary (just west of Exeter).
Thus Maegla's hiwisc. The name has gone through many variations over the years as the family moved generally North East through Cruwys Morchard, Witheridge, Washfield and so on into Somerset.

The earliest mention that I have of a name recognizable is from the Feudal Aids, page 345, AD 1303, Petrus de Melehywyssh tenet in Melehywyssh et Langeston un fee. Also, the Devonshire lay subsidy roll of 1332, where one William Melhywish paid a fee of 2 shillings on Melhiwysh (Melhuish Barton) near Tedburn St. Mary. There are other bits and pieces, but I don't have anything substantial until about 1550 when the Melhuishs of Witheridge burst on the scene.
There are also Melhuishs in Cornwall.



happy hunting
Foxy
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

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Re: Millis, Mellis, Melhuish
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 30 November 08 11:39 GMT (UK) »

Heres a bit more for you from GENUKI that includes 1821 census

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/TedburnStMary/

TEDBURN ST. MARY
    "TEDBURN ST. MARY, a pleasant village on the Okehampton road, 7½ miles W. by N. of Exeter, has in its parish 867 souls and 4433 acres of land, generally fertile, and hilly. It has a cattle fair, on the Monday before Michaelmas day, and includes the hamlet of Upcott, and many scattered farm-houses. At Domesday Survey, Tedbourne (Teteborne) was held by Ralph de Pomerai, under Baldwin de Sap. It is now held by John Hippesley, Esq.

The manors of Hackworthy and Melhuish were formerly held by families of their own names, and now belong to Baldwin Fulford, Esq., of Fulford House, which is noticed with Dunsford, at page 192. John Abbot, Esq., and several smaller owners have estates in the parish. The Church is an ancient structure, with a tower and six bells . . . " [From White's Devonshire Directory (1850)]

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/TedburnStMary/TedburnStMary1821.html

good luck
foxy
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks to all, so much to look through, lovely stuff, where do you find it all.
Robin
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley


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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 04 December 08 15:48 GMT (UK) »
I put all the sources in the email.
 I just love  ferreting things out.  I admit it! I'm totally addicted to genealogy!!
Reason for interest is that my daughter lives with a Melhuish!
Good luck!
Foxy
Pomeroy in London & Liverpool , Pomery near Launceston Cornwall, Shearer of Thurso, Moore in Colchester and Hornblow in Braintree Essex, Machin in Hackney & Stafford & Cook in Herts, Campbell, Sutherland, Mackay, Brotchie, Gunn in Thurso Caithness. Cadle in South Africa.

researching the Pomeroy Family of Collaton in Newton Ferrers and St Columb in Cornwall

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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 August 10 02:40 BST (UK) »
I have information on the Millis family connected to the one you mentioned. Thomas Millis bp 1714 son of Richard and Jane. The Kingston Millis family has been traced back a further 100 years to Richard Millest who was also a butcher at Cobham. Can send info if interested.

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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 August 10 06:04 BST (UK) »
 Millisk,
Many thanks - I would love any more information, look forward to it,
Robin - aka King William
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley

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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 19 August 10 04:40 BST (UK) »
Robin
you could have a look at this site and contact the author, Marvin Millis, for detailed access.
http://milliskingston.tribalpages.com/
Both myself and Marvin would welcome information and research from your side of the family.
Millisk

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Re: MILLIS, MELLIS, MELHUISH - Devon
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 August 10 12:43 BST (UK) »
Millisk - I did actually contact Marvin a couple of years ago and he did give me some information that I did not have.
I just tried to get into his site but I had to give an access code which of course I do not have so got nowhere
My line going backwards is
1..Sarah Millis, 1751 - 1790, married James Bush in 1770, he was a prosperous carpenter.
2..Thomas Millis, 1724 - 1775, born K.U.T., a butcher, married Mary Jarvis in 1741 in Fleets Debtors Prison of all places, secondly married Eleanor Wilcox in 1755
3..Thomas Millis married Elizabeth Simmons in Kingston-upon-Thames in 1718.
4..Richard Millest, born about 1622, of Cobham.
If there are any errors here in my line-up or anything you can add to this, I would be very grateful. I did note that on the tribalpages, that the name of Bush and Jarvis did not feature in the list of surnames, so maybe this info. will add to the sum of your family knowledge.
Many thanks for your reply
Robin aka King William
New Zealand
Wiltshire, Somerset, Gloucestershire - Busshe/Bushe/Bush, Le Strange/Strange, Whittington, Gunning, Browning, Maltravers
Shropshire - le Strange
Wales - Daylwyn or Deulwyn, Rede, Wirriott,
East Sussex - Catt, Ashdown, Barham, Henley, Hepden, Elliott, Phillips
London - Bush, King, Millis, Jarvis, Mellis(s)
Suffolk - Sewell, Baxter, Martin
Norfolk  - Sewell, Larter, Howlett
Tasmania, Australia - Bossward, Wellman
Worcestershire - Beach
Wales, Bristol, Bermondsey - Maurice, Cromwell, Riley