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Re: Francis Ballantyne Mysetry
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ngaio,

Thank you for that info.   :)

Knowing this helps to answer one of the puzzles about the birth dates being all over the place on the wedding certificate and birth certificates of the children.

I have recently been in contact with someone who gave me your email as a reference to the NZ side of the family, if it is alright maybe I can check a few details with you.

Michelle

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 November 08 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ngaio,

 I tried that email  at extra to no avail, keeps popping back to me.

I did receive a copy of your tree through another source, but it only had one Francis on it an not, Two, could you go into some more detail please.

Michelle

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 01 December 08 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Michelle
We are having trouble receiving emails at present  and cannot get through to xtra to find out what the problem is. 
Without seeing the family tree you have where you mentioned that only one Francis Ballantyne appears, I cannot explain why, unless I was concentrating purely on our direct family.   Do remember that  the second Francis was actually John Douglas Francis Ballantyne - why he was later called Francis I don't know. 
For what it is worth, and you may already have this information, but I will start right at the beginning of what we know of the Ballantynes.

Francis Ballantyne born abt 1749 possibly in Whithaughburn, Roxburgh.   married Margaret Robson about 1775   We don't know where either Francis and Margaret came from.  One theory is that they may have come from the Kinross area but cannot prove anything here. Francis was a grocer .
Their children were (not necessarily in the right order of birth)

Christian born 
Elizabeth (betty)  born 1776 married William Ingles
Isabell  married John Inglies (spelling as this husbands were brothers)
William married Janet Armstrong
James  born 1786
Francis  married Frances Brown  became merchant in Hawick, buried in Hawick 
John   born in Newcastleton in 1789 the youngest  and our connection


John  Ballantyne, the youngest I have  as being christened  18/4/1779?  married Mary Miller who was born in Brampton but was baptised  in Bewcastle in Cumberland and grew up on a property called  Steppings - house still there.  They married about 1810/11.   John Ballantyne died in Castleton on 9/11/1855.  Their children were

Isabella    born 1812
Francis     born 1814
Margaret  born 1815
Helen       born 1817  died after 1853
John Douglas Francis     born  aboout 1819  our connection
Agnes       born 1825
Archibald born  1826/27   

It was  this John Douglas Francis Ballantyne who married three times,  your connection being from the second wife who died as they were arriving in Dunedin in 1860. 

We would love to know what happened to the second family.    Our Mary Ann Ballantyne, youngest of first family, was seen walking up Maori Hill in Dunedin when she was about 12, carrying a baby under one arm and a load of washing in other.  Her brother in law (married to Jessie who became a Swannerton on marriage) saw her  and felt so sorry for her that  they took her in to live with them.    Mary Ann was so grateful thatshe named her daughter  (my grandmother )Jessie Swannerton Brown.
I think it was probably very difficult for the children of the second marriage as  John Douglas Francis married for the 3rd time  in about 1861/62 and then had another four children.

Hope I am not confusing you too much
My sister has just returned from the South Island  where she met up with other Ballantynes and I gather she has brought back quite a bit of information we don't  have so when I get this, will forward it on to you. 
Meanwhile, keep asking questions - it helps us too. 

Ngaio
PS  We  do have notes of a diary dictated by John Ballantyne, second child  from John Douglas Francis Ballantyne's first marriage to Margaret Francies Archibald.  He went blind some time after he came to New Zealand. He tells the story briefly of  the family's life before they came to New Zealand and his life after he came here.  The trouble is it would be too long to put on this website so would love to be able to send it to you.    There must be a way!

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Re: Francis Ballantyne Mysetry
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 December 08 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ngaio,  Yes I have  finally got the Francis and John Douglas Francis thing sorted.  I have the history from IGI going back to Margaret Robson and Francis Ballantyne, what I need now is what you might have, some of the more recent family and more details on the individual people.

I have a little information about Georgre  Ballantyne and his family, a contact in NZ on the Jewiss line was going to contact the last of my grandmothers generation for me, these things all take time.

I would love to see all the information you have gathered on those Ballantynes, and it sounds like you have some great stories too.

When I received the last note from you I googled Millers in Becastle and you would not believe what I found, an Family History which I am certain you had a hand in about the Miller Family. That will save me a lot of trouble as well, because finding any family so far back without help can be very hard.

The Diary sounds wonderful.

Have you tried personal messaging me yet, can you do this with your email mucking up.  I have sent you a couple of personal messages and was wondering if they were getting through.

Michelle


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Re: Francis Ballantyne Mysetry
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 December 08 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi myshell007,

Congratulations ;D, in making a new contact and piecing it all together.
Your persistance has paid off.
Just been chasing down my rellies in N.Z.

Cheers,
trish
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