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Voyage Records - NA - Is this correct?
« on: Wednesday 26 November 08 18:27 GMT (UK) »
I recently visited the NA at Kew and came up with the following record of voyages undertaken by my GGG/father between 1836/1840.
His unique number was 8326 taken from BT120/1
This lead me to BT112/14-15 were I located, amongst 7 entries, the following:-

C(62)      22/8/1838      62/4570      BLACKALLER

Am I correct in assuming the transcription reads as follows:-
Not sure what the 'C' is telling me.
Does (62) represent Liverpool as the port of departure? The date presumably is either the start or end of the voyage.
Is the code 62/4570 the port of arrival + the unique voyage number?
The vessel's name was BLACKALLER.
Any help will be most welcome
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Davecigar
Cockram/Williams - Poole/Wareham, Dorset
Evans - Corwen
Dodd - New Ferry/Malpas
Jones/Williams - Caernarfon/Anglesey
Bristowe - Bratton, Wiltshire
Wells - Bath, Somerset
Fishwick/Lewis - Liverpool
Nicholson/Tennant - Ecclefechan, Dumfrieshire

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Re: Voyage Records - NA - Is this correct?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 December 08 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi, to all who have looked at the ?
I went to the NA at Kew today and have, more or less, found the answers.
There is a 'crib sheet' entitled 'Merchant Seaman: Interpreting Voyage Details etc'.
So the interpretation is:-
1)       C stands for Captain. For others researching this topic, other abbreviations are:-

CfM     Chief Mate (Chief Officer/2nd in Command/Keeps the 0400/0800 watch)
2M      Second Mate (2nd Officer/1200/1600 watch)
3M      Third Mate (3rd Officer/0800/1200 watch)
M        Mate (same person as Chief Mate)
E        Engineer
2E      2nd Engineer
Please note that all the Mates are Navigating Officers responsible for getting the vessel from port to port, hopefully without incident. They also keep the corresponding night watches.
2)       62(Liverpool) does represent the port of departure.
3)       The date could be either, depending on the record.
4)       62(Liverpool), the port of arrival and the voyage number.
5)       'BLACKALLER'. The name of the vessel.

I asked about Lloyd's List or Lloyd's Register of Shipping and was directed to the bookcase immediately behind, and to the right of the 'research enquiry desk'. There I found the 1st relevant copy dated 1835, the next being 1840. (Not sure whether 1836 to 1839 are housed at the Guildhall Library). As my ancestor served on both the 'Blackaller' and the 'Rapid' I was able to find a record of both vessels in each and subsequent years. Each record has the name of the vessel and type, the name of the Master (Captain), the tonnage, where and when built, the owners, the port of registry (which is extremely relevant to further records) and the classification for insurance purposes.

I was then advised to research BT98 where, once you know the Port of Registry, you can find the Agreements and Crew Lists relative to that particular vessel, in my case 1835/1844,
Exeter is the P of Reg so the reference is BT98/251 for the 'BLACKALLER' AND BT98/254 for the 'RAPID'. These are original records, so as I'd run out of time, I'll have to visit Kew again in the spring.

Hope this is of some help,
Regards to all,
Davecigar



Cockram/Williams - Poole/Wareham, Dorset
Evans - Corwen
Dodd - New Ferry/Malpas
Jones/Williams - Caernarfon/Anglesey
Bristowe - Bratton, Wiltshire
Wells - Bath, Somerset
Fishwick/Lewis - Liverpool
Nicholson/Tennant - Ecclefechan, Dumfrieshire

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Re: Voyage Records - NA - Is this correct?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 May 15 10:07 BST (UK) »
Hi, Saw your post and my ancestor  was first mate on the 1836 voyage Liv. to the Baltic and Italy ?? I think. If you ever get a crew list I would be interested to see William Hughes in that list. Have you seen the painting of the Blackaller?. regards Vaughan Cullen

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Re: Voyage Records - NA - Is this correct?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 May 15 12:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Vaughan,
Yes, I've got three voyage records with a Wm Hughes as Mate.
Attached them to this message but won't allow me to send them.
If you send me an email I'll attach them to my reply
richard_cockram@sky.com
Regards
Davecigar
Cockram/Williams - Poole/Wareham, Dorset
Evans - Corwen
Dodd - New Ferry/Malpas
Jones/Williams - Caernarfon/Anglesey
Bristowe - Bratton, Wiltshire
Wells - Bath, Somerset
Fishwick/Lewis - Liverpool
Nicholson/Tennant - Ecclefechan, Dumfrieshire