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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 27 November 08 08:40 GMT (UK) »
Roy,
       Everything you have written so far is very interesting. You have done a great job. I'm waiting for the next chapter.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 27 November 08 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Part 6

Robert Charnley may have been a prosperous farmer of many acres when (or if ) he married Isabella abt 1840. As with a lot of Charnleys the marriage is not found. Isabella's fortunes are unknown. What is known is she came from a long line of Langstroths dating back to 1464.   http://colegenealogy.net/pdf/LANGSTROTH-William.pdf. This alone shows that back then they were a family of some wealth.  I once found a reference to 'Langstroth Hall' in Yorks or Westmoreland, (lost it again). Isabella's cousin Craven Langstroth decided to emigrate to New Brunswick, Canada, some time before 1828. Wasn't there some conflict with the British govt about then ? He married there.

            Going back to  Thomas Langstroth born 1745 in Langstrothdale  Yorks emigrated to Pennsylvania about 1776. Following his family through 2 generations of Johns in Mexico and California we reach Ivan Shed Langstroth 1887 - 1971. Shed being his mothers maiden name. He attained fame as a composer and concert pianist and toured Europe. Few people would know his works unless really interested in choral or chamber music. However he did write  a  Song of hope (1967) "We want Ronald Reagan." Dated:  31 March 1967,  New York City.   ;D 
Item 103  http://content.cdlib.org/view?docId=tf596nb1w7&doc.view=entire_text&brand=oac 
 
             Ivan Shed Langstroth, American composer, pianist, and teacher, was born in Alameda, California on October 16, 1887. He received his early musical training in San Francisco with Theodore Vogt, then in Berlin at the Hochschule fur Musik. His teachers were Paul Juon and Engelbert Humperdinck in composition and Josef Lhevinne in piano.
             After his student days he remained on the continent. In 1915 he was a coach at the Kiel opera, and in 1916 he served as organist at the American Church in Berlin. Between 1917 and 1920 he toured Scandinavia as a concert pianist, then settled in Vienna where he taught composition and theory at the Neue Wiener Konservatorium from 1921 until 1928.
              Returning to the United States he taught at Chatham Square Music School in New York, City College, and Brooklyn College. Langstroth died in New York City on April 18, 1971.
               Just before his passing, Langstroth gave all of his works to Henriette de Saussure (Blanding) Lehman, his friend and patroness, who lived in Palm Springs, California, with the understanding that they would be deposited with a California institution.

In January, 1974, Benjamin H. Lehman, emeritus Professor of English at Berkeley, who carried out Henriette's trust, presented the Langstroth papers to the Music Library.       
  


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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 29 November 08 08:35 GMT (UK) »
 
    Which came first Roy, the family Langstroth or Langstrothdale?

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Wood-Leeds.   Jagger/Charlesworth/Exley- Crigglestone. Sheard- Leeds.   Foulds-Sutton-on-Trent.   Cooper/Hull- Dorking.   Dunstone-Chiswick.   Claridge -Berkshire.

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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 29 November 08 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Not too sure on this one Woody. From what I've looked at the original name could have been Longstrette, of Saxon origin, or more likely Danish as the Danes settled in Yorkshire and held out against the Saxons for many years. On this basis I suggests the name came first. Dale being the old Norse word for a valley, so The dale where the Longstrottes lived.
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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 29 November 08 11:52 GMT (UK) »

    I live about 40 miles from there. It truly is Gods own country and my wife and I often take our caravan up there so that we can enjoy the walking.

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« Reply #23 on: Sunday 30 November 08 02:11 GMT (UK) »
It sure looks like it Woody. I only saw a bit of Yorkshire on my way from Bedfordshire to the 'Lake District' back in 1961. Lots of good pictures here    http://www.geograph.org.uk/search.php?i=4469124
Allen(Dorset),Barker(Essex), Batham, Burris, Champelovier(London, Clark (Suffolk), Clay (London), Elliott (Wilts), Faith (Sussex), Hawes (London), Heinemann (Germany),  Hussey (Dorset), Mason (London), Myers (Yorks/Lancs), Parker (Yorks), Phillips(Hamps),  Smith,(Wilts) Wingate (Sussex) , Wiseman, Townson Yorks), Want(Wilts) and more

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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 30 November 08 09:54 GMT (UK) »

    Beautiful pictures Roy. I' ll probably go to lower Wharfedale for a walk on Boxing Day and I'll remember your ancestors.

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 30 November 08 13:49 GMT (UK) »
Part 7

               
              Thomas Langstroth 1745 - 1800   was the grandfather of another famous Langstroth , Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth 1810-1895.  Described by Wiki-paedia as an Italian immigrant. Obviously they have not researched his ancestry, he is definitely descended from the Yorkshire family. Why is he in Wiki  ?  answer Bees ,  the honey kind.  I need not rack my brain here as its all there at   
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beekeeping 
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L. L. Langstroth, Revered as the "father of American apiculture", no other individual has influenced modern beekeeping practice more than Lorenzo Lorraine Langstroth. His classic book The Hive and Honey-bee was published in 1853.

               This concludes the history of those that kept the name Langstroth. Others had emigrated from the home country as Langstroth but somehow they became Longstreth and spread over a vast area of the US as it opened up.


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Re: Mundane to Sublime
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 30 November 08 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Ooooo Roy I'm very interested in this!

Although wikipedia cannot be trusted as it the articles are collectively entered by members of the public and only some researchers. It's a bit like the IGI, lol.

Nevertheless mate good reading, nice one :)

Matt :)
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