Blog: Mundane to Sublime

[Leofric]

I didnt know that ggd.   What I do know is the 3rd Foot became the Scots Guards    http://www.britishbattles.com/index.htm

Roy,

The 3rd Foot became the Royal East Kent Regiment, also known as the Buffs due to the facings of that colour on their red coat.

The 3rd Foot Guards are a different kettle of fish entirely, and as you say, are now the Scots Guards.

Leofric

[rancegal]

The triangle was used for flogging miscreants, especially in the Army and Navy.

   Quote from Wikipedia:

 Typically, the offender's upper half was bared and he was suspended by the hands beneath a tripod of wooden beams (known as 'the triangle'), while either one or two floggers administered the prescribed number of strokes.

[wood.mjm]

Hi Roy.
    I enjoyed our short meeting on the live chat section a few weeks ago. Strange how things change. Ordinary local folk are hard pressed to raise enough cash to be able to buy a house in Kettlewell or Starbotton and many cottages have been snapped up by the wealthy who like a quiet bolt-hole in the country. Some of my wifes family were Ag Labs in Northeast Yorkshire mostly looking after sheep. They took the opportunity to move to Leeds where they worked for the railway company as draymen and looked after the horses. I imagine they must have been better off or why would they move from beautiful North Yorks to Leeds?
These days Mundane to Sublime would definitely be the other way around.

Woody.

[Aussie Roy]

The triangle was used for flogging miscreants, especially in the Army and Navy.

   Quote from Wikipedia:

 Typically, the offender's upper half was bared and he was suspended by the hands beneath a tripod of wooden beams (known as 'the triangle'), while either one or two floggers administered the prescribed number of strokes.
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I don't think its the same triangle . His death certificate issued after an inquest definitely says 'death was the result of falling from a triangle which I assume meant from a height. If he died after a flogging I'm sure that would be indicated on the cert

[Matt R]

Roy this is cool! I like it!

I think fans will like you more lol...you tell them what happens next!

Keep this up its wicked!

Matt

[Aussie Roy]

Part 4

          Amelia Wingate 1831 - 1906 was born in Llancharian, Cardiganshire, South Wales where her father Charles Wingate 1796 - 1864  was a customs officer. He was born in Selsey, West Sussex and shortly after he married in 1919 was transferred to New Quay, Wales. The Welsh coast must have been a haven for smugglers if it required an officer to be sent there from Sussex .After  birth of Charles jnr and Amelia he went to Sandgate , Kent  where he soon retired to Elham. Charles jnr became a coastguard.  Amelia  must have led a fairly adventurous  life after marrying  Julius Heinemann,  Charlotte was born in Sandgate 1859 and the family is not seen in 1861 census, having left for parts unknown. Malta being  the only  known foreign place that she went to where Julius Stephen was born.Then in 1871 listed at the barracks in Bury. Why Kettlewell in the Yorkshire dales was chosen is a mystery,  She died a  widow  living in a cottage at 'The Green' Kettlewell, the same year that her granddaughter Lizzie Emma married the next door neighbour. What became of daughter Charlotte is unclear at present, no marriage or death found. The cottages at 'The Green' Kettlewell were demolished in 1920     The  Wingates came from West Wittering in Sussex, some were customs officers. Other names connected to them are Perrin , Aylmore, Faith, nothing of particular interest found.
        The Wiseman line can be traced back to 1712 and further in Westmoreland  where they may or may not have taken part in repelling the Jacobite Rebellion of 1715.

Next  The Myers side

[majm]

Roy, I think you have been taking writing lessons from Matt R.  This "Mundane" tis not so, I think your forebears are interesting too.  I might get inspired to do a blog myself, But on other hand who would want to know of my forebears in Ireland who were associated with Captain Moonlight?  Or my forebears in Cornwall who were Master Mariners of slave trading ships, or later heroes at Waterloo?  Or of my Spaniard who came to Australia as part of 48th Regiment to guard the convicts and was not allowed a grant of land because the then dictator of Sydney Cove (Governor of NSW) said he was a "Foreigner".

Cheers, Roy,

MA

[Aussie Roy]

Part 5

           Jane Myers 1913 - 1993  Yes I did have the odd bit of mother in law trouble. Emigrating put a stop to that.      . Jane and her elder brother Sid ( not Sidney ) were born in Barnoldswick when it was in Yorkshire. Their parents Charlie Myers 1874 - 1941 and Ann Elkin Charnley 1880 - 1935 were not married and it is odd that both have registered the children in their own names. You will find in the birth index  Jane Myers and Jane Charnley with the same index numbers 1913  Skipton  vol  9a  page 49,  as well as Sid Myers and Sid Charnley 1911 Skipton vol 9a page 28. Is this unique ? As far as I know only 1 birth certificate was issued in the name of  Myers.  The Myers are only traced to Stephen Myers of Long Preston Yorks who moved to Barnoldswick to work in the mills,( soul destroying labour ) as cotton spinners etc.Charlie was born In Barlick (as it is known) but, Ann Elkin was born to a farming family in  Langcliffe, North Yorks.This was the first time I had come across a surname ( Elkin) used as a middle name and it took me a while to work it out. This case was odd because Ann Elkin her grandmother died in 1853, 27 yrs before Ann Elkin was born. Ann Elkin was the only child of Richard Charnley  1847 - 1906 and  Margaret Ann Townson !845 - 1911. Richard it seems farmed his own land at Rathmell, but fell on hard times and was forced to work as a mason's labourer and by 1901 was an inmate of Settle workhouse where I presume he died. Margaret Ann and Ann Elkin are not found in 1901 census. A death appears for Margaret 1911 and Ann Elkin is next found with the birth of Sid 1911.
           Richard Charnley was the son of Robert Charnley 1791 - 1864 and Isabella Langstroth 1807 - 1882  of Tatham Lancashire.

Next the adventurous Langstroths.

[Aussie Roy]

Roy, I think you have been taking writing lessons from Matt R.  This "Mundane" tis not so, I think your forebears are interesting too.  I might get inspired to do a blog myself, But on other hand who would want to know of my forebears in Ireland who were associated with Captain Moonlight?  Or my forebears in Cornwall who were Master Mariners of slave trading ships, or later heroes at Waterloo?  Or of my Spaniard who came to Australia as part of 48th Regiment to guard the convicts and was not allowed a grant of land because the then dictator of Sydney Cove (Governor of NSW) said he was a "Foreigner".

Cheers, Roy,

MA

You're good at talking so why not be good at writng ?
As I said, most intersting is OH's ancestors as you will see