BENTLEY - pre 1886 - any info helpful

[posteria]

Here is John Cowan in 1851 ....

Hulme HO107/2221 Folio 874 Page 4 (Decayed)

Alexander Cowan Head M 44 Joiner Scotland
Janet do Wife M 41 Scotland
William do Son U 21 ? Merchant’s Book Keeper Scotland
John do Son U 19 Joiner Scotland
Elleanor do Daur U 13 Scholar Scotland

16 Devonshire St, Hulme, Manchester

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[posteria]

Again in 1861 ....

Manchester RG9/2970 Folio 98 Page 57

Alexander Cowan Head M 55 Joiner Scotland
Janet do Wife M 51 Scotland
John do Son U 29 Joiner Scotland
George Holand ? Boarder U 18 Joiner Scotland

20 Robert St, Cheetham, Manchester

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[posteria]

I wonder if this is where Ellen Leetch Cowan’s middle name originated from ?

In the first quarter of 1861 Helen Hyslop Cowan married William Leetch at Manchester Cathedral. The GRO reference is on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/.

I think that she is the daughter shown on the 1851 census as Elleanor. IGI batch C118664 shows her as the daughter of Alexander Cowan and Jean McHarg.

The mother’s maiden surname, that I could not read on John Cowan’s marriage document, does (now) look remarkably like Harg. Jane, Jean and Janet tend to be interchangeable in Scotland.

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[Elli8982]

Firstly I would like to say a big thank you to posteria. You have found out so much information about the Cowan side of the family that is great. I have been able to locate all of the things and some extra bits so thanks so much.

I wonder whether anyone has been able to find anything out about the Bentley side, so John William Bentley and Sarah A Baynes? I have found that Sarah Baynes had parents called Joseph and Eliza but cannot find what Eliza's maiden name is. I have searched and it has given me 5 different possibilites and I cannot figure out which they are. Does anyone have any clues as to how I can figure out which one belongs to Joseph Baynes? Baynes is sometimes spelt Baines too.

Thanks again though posteria, you're a star.

Elli

[posteria]

I have found that Sarah Baynes had parents called Joseph and Eliza but cannot find what Eliza's maiden name is.

Hello Elli

You are welcome.

The birth certificate for one of the children of Joseph and Eliza will provide her maiden name. Since Sarah Ann is your direct ancestor it is probably the most appropriate one to go for. Her birth seems to have been registered in the third quarter of 1862 at Knaresborough. The GRO reference is 9a 95.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

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[jmg1414]

I am in the middle of a search for the family of one...Isabella Harley Cowan born Scotland we think as married and lived in Edinburgh ...Husband William Gray born 1905 so we assume she was born about same time as family members remember her as about that age...As this family in this thread contains both Harley and Cowan I am hopeful that their may be a connection....thanks

[Elli8982]

I am in the middle of a search for the family of one...Isabella Harley Cowan born Scotland we think as married and lived in Edinburgh ...Husband William Gray born 1905 so we assume she was born about same time as family members remember her as about that age...As this family in this thread contains both Harley and Cowan I am hopeful that their may be a connection....thanks

Hi

I see from my information that I have a James Harley born 1815 in Pilgrim, Fife, who married Catherine Bringans. They had 9 children: John, James, Isabella, Jane Young, Catherine, William, Robert, Janet and Mary. As there is an Isabella in amongst that, it might be worth a closer look.

All the information I have on Isabella is that she was born 1844 in Alloa, Scotland and was residing at 7 Drysdale Street in Alloa in the 1851 Scotland Census (Parish: Alloa; ED: 1; Page: 13; Line: 28; Roll: 1002; Year: 1851) and she was listed as being a scholar.

Another possible connection could be to Isabella's sibling, Jane Young Harley born 1846 in Alloa Scotland who married John Cowan. They had 5 children (that I know of): Alexander, James Harley, Ellen Leetch, Catherine H and John. I am from the Ellen Leetch side of the family but looking at this information - it may be worth looking at James Harley as he appears to be the only one of the family who kept the Harley name.

Hope this helps - if you want any more information I have, please don't hesitate to let me know.

Thanks
Elli

[jmg1414]

Many thanks that gives me a lot to get my teeth into...We were all lead to believe Harley was the middle name and as all my scottish people seem to hand down a surname as a middle name it could well be in this family somewhere...thanks again

[Glen Field]

On 14th August 1931, at Leith North, a William John Gray married an Isabella HARTLEY COWEN. He was 25 and she was 29. They were both Chemists.

She was the daughter of John Darling Constable Cowen and Mary Jane Cowen (nee Hartley).

He was the son of William John Gray, a Lighthouse Keeper and Harriet Gray.

Does that sound like it might be your couple?

GF