BENTLEY - pre 1886 - any info helpful

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Hi
I have the following information and wondered whether anyone could help to fill in the gaps? I have most information after 1886 so anything before that would be a great help.

John William Bentley (b. Mar 1863 Pateley Bridge) married Sarah Ann Baynes(b. Sep 1862 Scotton, Knaresbrough) Dec 1887 Leeds. They had son Thomas Albert Baynes Bentley b. Dec 1886. I have assumed because of the dates that Thomas was born before they got married so took his mothers name initially then after marriage they added the Bentley on the end. Just an idea but not far-fetched I don't think? On the 1901 Census Thomas is listed as Albert.

Q1 - I cannot find any other children from John and Sarah so if anyone can find any I would be grateful.
Q2 - I cannot find when either parent or child died.

Charles Bentley (b. either 1825 Pateley Bridge or 1827 Bishopside) married Elizabeth ?  They have 6 children as per 1871 Census.

Q3 - I cannot find Elizabeth's maiden name which is therefore also proving difficult to find her ancestors too. Any info?

Thomas Albert married Ellen Leetch Cowan (b. Jun 1877 Chorlton) on Sep 1906. I have no information regarding her at all. They had John William Baynes Bentley (b. 23 Feb 1907 Pateley Bridge) who is my grandfather.

Q4 - Ellen Cowan - any information gratefully received.

I would like to thank anyone in advance for their help.

Would be grateful to hear from anyone who is related to this family too.

Elli

 

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Charles Bentley marriage Q3. 1853  Pately Bridge  Vol 9a.  Pg. 73

Elizabeth Bell :  image shows Pg. 73 although it has been transcribed as 75

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A possibility for Ellen L Cowan in 1891 ....

Chorlton RG12/3189 Folio 127 Page 30

John Cowan Head M 59 News Agent Scotland
Jane do Wife M 45 Scotland
Alexander do Son S 20 Jewellery and Toy Warehouseman Manchester
James do Son S 17 Jewellery and Toy Warehouseman Manchester
Ellen L do Daur S 14 Scholar Manchester
Catherine do Daur S 10 Scholar Manchester
John do Son S 8 Scholar Manchester

49 Embden St, Chorlton on Medlock

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The same family can be found on the 1881 census by looking on http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp and searching for Helen L Cowan 1877

This entry also specifies where in Scotland the parents came from.

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On the 1901 census, John is still shown as married but Jane is not there ....

Chorlton RG13/3698 Folio 152 Page 2

John Cowan Head M 69 News Agent Scotland
James do Son S 27 Warehouseman Lancs Manchester
Nellie do Daur S 24 Shop Assistant Lancs Manchester
Kate do Daur S 20 CC Clerk Lancs Manchester
John do Son S 18 ? Lancs Manchester

49 Embden St, Chorlton on Medlock

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Added Information - Jane Cowan (married) and her son, Alexander are shown together at 322 Gt Cheetham St East, Broughton. They are both listed as “Stationer and Newsagent“. The census reference is Salford RG13/3725 Folio 102 Page 2

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[quote author=Elli8982 link=topic=344144.msg2227107#msg2227107
. They had son Thomas Albert Baynes Bentley b. Dec 1886. I have assumed because of the dates that Thomas was born before they got married so took his mothers name initially then after marriage they added the Bentley on the end. Just an idea but not far-fetched I don't think?

Birth
Thomas Albert BAynes
Oct/Nov/Dec 1886
Leeds
9b 532

so, yes, he was registered as Baynes but obviously used Bentley later on

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Here are the Cowans in 1871, at the same address as in 1881 ....

Chorlton RG10/4006 Folio 113 Page 30

John Cowen Head M 39 Joiner Scotland
Jane do Wife M 25 Scotland
Alexander do Son 2mo Hulme Manchester

5 Rial St, Hulme

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The son, James H Cowan, born in 1873 had the middle name of Harley.

In 1868 in the Parish of Alloa, a John Cowan aged 37 and a Joiner, residing in Manchester married a Jane Young Harley aged 22, also residing in Manchester.

Her parents were called James and Catherine Harley whose maiden surname looks like Bringham (or something similar).

His parents were called Alexander and Jane (or Janet) Cowan. I can’t read what her maiden surname was.

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James and Catherine Harley appear on all the Scottish census returns from 1841 to 1891 with various spellings of their surname as Harley, Harlay and Hurley.

In summary, the family seems to comprise the following :-

James Harley born c1815 occupation Cooper
Catherine born c1814 (maiden name was possibly Bringan)
John born c1838
James born c1840
Isabella born c1844
Jane born c1846
Catherine born c1849
William born c1851
Robert born c1853
Janet born c1856
Mary born c1860

All the children were born at Alloa. Most census returns say that both parents were also born at Alloa but on one they are both shown as being from Fife.

On the 1851/1861/1871 census they lived at Drysdale Street, Alloa

On the 1881/1891 census they lived at Greenfield Street, Alloa

The marriage for Jane Young Harley and John Cowan is shown in IGI batch M114651, as is that for her brother James and her sister Catherine.

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