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Deaths -Irwin
« on: Sunday 23 November 08 01:29 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find deaths of Robert Stanley Allen Irwin (b. Gibraltar abt. 1872 - served briefly in WW1), his wife, Frances Mary Denny b. abt. 1880 (nee Schlechtweg - or Sleswick), and their daughter Irene Frances Adelaide, b. abt. 1905 who never married. Robert was discharged from the A.I.F. in 1918. He was deemed medically unfit. (Enlisted in 1916 aged 44, and was aged 62 when discharged!) He was already a widower in 1916, so Frances must have died between 1908 (birth of second daughter, Phyllis) and 1916 when Robert enlisted. Irene was still alive in the 1936 electoral roll. Any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 November 08 02:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lizzie

What state in OZ  do you have them in,   on the electoral roll

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 November 08 02:05 GMT (UK) »
Electoral rolls in Vic...

Have you Robert Allan Stanley's and his wife's parents' names please...they would be on their marriage cert if you have it.

Have had a pretty good look on the Vic indexes and can't find anything....well so far :)

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 November 08 02:22 GMT (UK) »
Robert enlisted at Cootamundra in NSW...find that a bit odd if he was living in Melbourne.

There is this death on NSW
2516/1910     
IRWIN      FRANCIS     
Father James  Mother Catherine     
District Newtown 


Not correct parent.

Probably way off track...I often get the wobbles ;D ;D

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 November 08 02:27 GMT (UK) »
This looks like him
http://naa12.naa.gov.au/NameSearch/Interface/ItemListingForm.aspx

WWI records
Robert Irwin, born Gibraltar, Europe; place of enlistment Cootamundra NSW. NOK Irene (daughter)

Digital copy available to view.

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 23 November 08 02:44 GMT (UK) »
Yes that is the WW1 record ...have just finished reading the 95 pages  ::)....There is a letter post discharge from the Taxation Department in Adelaide, South Australia .  As his diagnosis at discharge was senility I am wondering if this could be his death in South Australia

IRWIN Robert
28 Mar 1921
65 years  Status Married??   
No relative noted.
Residence Rose Park   Death Place Keswick
Ref Ade H [died in hospital or place of care] 444/582

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 23 November 08 03:02 GMT (UK) »
To help with the searching

Births
SCHLICHTWEG Frances Mary Denny
Father  John Augustus  Mother Mary Ann DENNY
At Collingwood   1880  Reg#7788

Marriage

IRWIN Robt Stanley Allen   b. Gilbraton
SCHLICHTURG   Frances Mary  b. Collingwood
1903  Reg#6247R

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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 23 November 08 03:08 GMT (UK) »
Looking further at the National Archives record, daughter Irene is given as living at 182 Hambleton St, Middle Park, Vic in 1916; he is discharged owing to "eyesight" and then re-enlists in Nov 1916.  Irene's address then given as 219 (later noted as 49) Richardson St, Middle Park, later amended to Charles St, Northcote.  He also gives the Richardson St address as his postal address in 1916. Despatched to Engand 1917, returned to Aus and discharged May, 1918, owing to 'senility' and being 'overage" (he had been promoted to acting Sgt only a couple of months before!)- he was 62.
Most listings of his occupation is as a "clerk/timekeeper" but one says "railway clerk" which may well be why he was in Coota which was a big junction station on the Syd/Melbourne railway.  A postal address is on one page for him - Morrisons Hill NSW.

One page gives a place of origin of his eyesight problem as "West Australia".

A later letter (from the tax office!) 1920 gives his address as Hume St, Adelaide.
Letter dated Aug 1924 to Irene at the first Middle Park address in regard to a medal to be issued under "Deceased Soldiers' Estates Act".  (Dopey them - her address had been changed and they actually had the new address .)
Letter dated Sep 1924  to a Mrs M Sandilands, 123 Charles St Northcote as 'custodian of Irene Irwin'.  A reply from Mrs Sandilands give the address for Irene Frances Adelaide Irwin at 127 Charles St, Northcote South and states that there were no sons and that Irene is the eldest daughter.
The last entry on the NAA records shows that the Star, the British War Medal and the Victory medal had been sent to Irene!

SNAP, Cando lol
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Re: Deaths -Irwin
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 November 08 03:54 GMT (UK) »
It appears that Mary Ann SANDILANDS is Frances Mary's mother and Irene's grandmother.

Birth
DENNY Mary Anne
Father James George  Mother Elizth Hart Charity TWIGHT
At Buninyong  1857
1857  Reg# 6108

Marriage
DENNY Mary Ann  b. Buninyong
SCHLICHTWEG  John Augustus Theodore  b. Germany
1877  Reg# 3989

Can't locate the death of John Augustus Theodore SCHLICHTWEG and I'm not surprised taking into account the spelling variations.

Marriage
SANDILANDS Frederick Erskine b. Prahran
SLESWICK Mary Ann
1909  1541

Death
SANDILANDS Mary Ann
Father Denny James George  Mother Eliz Harrt  UNKNOWN
At St Kilda  79 years  1937  Reg#2716

Both Mary Ann and her husband Frederick Erskine are buried at St Kilda Cemetery ...was hoping that her dau was buried there also. :(
http://www.deceasedsearch.com/index.php

While scrolling through the IRWIN names at Springvale and St Kilda I found some of my distant IRWIN/PEERS relatives who died in 1991 and 2007..so there are fringe benefits in helping others...or trying to ;D

Cheers
Cando



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