St Breock Births/Baptisms

[krisesjoint]

Hi Steve,

Young George appears to be with his Uncle in 1881 under the name of Williams so it appears they were not married when he was born. I haven't found a likely marriage so far. Always a chance there was no marriage of course. 

RG11/2295 Folio 79 Page 11
Burlawn
St Breock

WILLIAMS George Nephew 7 b St Breock

Home of George WILLIAMS 29 b Probus Gen Lab and Family

George William WILLIAMS b Jun 1/4 1875 St Col 5c 102

I suspect he was not James's son. James Ivey Hill's first son was probably James Ivey HILL Mar 1/4 1879 Plymouth 5b 309

I note George and Ellen WILLIAMS can be found in Probus in 1861 with their parents Luke and Jane. Luke is an ag lab

George WILLIAMS 12 and Ellen 8

RG11/2295 Folio 29 Page 12
Church Town
Probus

Working back Luke and Jane are already married by 1841

possible only just as I see a possible marriage in the right district

Luke WILLIAMS = Jane RICHARDS June 1/4 1841 Truro 9 351

Cheers Kris 

[steveh37]

Hi Kriss

Thanks for your reply, you have been an immense help, I had my great grandmother down as Ellen Jane Williams Probus 1854 and her father John Williams coming from Falmouth (1832) and her mother Eliza James (1832)from Calstock. When I checked my grandad's birth certificate his mother was down as Ellen Williams so I never checked out the possibility of another Ellen Williams born Probus for the same year. So it seems that I have been on the wrong tack all this time. Since I received your reply I have checked back on the census records and have found Luke Williams on 1861 Census where you stated and found his date of birth 27 9 1812 (Gerrans) on LDS also his father and mother, same source along with 2 brothers born at Gerrans.  So thank you for your monumental help.

As to George I had came to the same opinion that he was either not James son or he had been born before they married and been given his mothers family name.    As to James and Ellen as he is listed as a Merchant Seaman it is possible they could have married at sea or at least by a sea Captain, but where do you start looking for that ?   Marriage certificate would have resolved these problems .  The search goes on.  Can't thank you enough for all your help 

[osprey]

marriages at sea 1854 - 1883 are on Findmypast

http://www.findmypast.com/BirthsMarriagesDeaths.jsp

but the only Hill is a William.

 

[steveh37]

Thanks Osprey, just have to keep searching