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Offline lizdb

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Re: golden
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Getting the marriage cert for MAy might help - to see whether she names Patrick as her father - or alternatively an adoptive father....

I havent managed to get ANY of them in 1901 yet!
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Re: golden
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:24 GMT (UK) »
joseph sidney was in a catholic home in 1901 and i also found a florry doherty 15 in a girls home this could be floris r .i have also found a death for an elizabeth doherty in 1896 in chorlton aged 39 so this is probably the right one and the reason for the children being all over the place.

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:26 GMT (UK) »
I was beginnig to think that either the family had all gone to Ireland to visit rellies, or the parents had died and the family was split - the latter scenario adding weight to theory that May was adopted by the Goldens.

Have you got Elizabeths death cert to see if she was wife or widow of Patrick?
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Parker - Sussex
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Re: golden
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:36 GMT (UK) »
no not yet . i will probably wait till after christmas and get mays marriage cert and hope for the best.

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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Going back to the Goldens.
I see Bage married Patrick Golden in 1894.

Now in 1901 he is not with her, but I cannot see him anywhere obvious.
But - I DO note that the Patrick Golden's that are in 1901 are generally Irish. So that is one link between MAry nee Bage and little MAy. Mary's husband could well have been Irish and therfore known of the Doherty's plight through rellies or friends.
MAry/PAtrick's marriage cert might twll us more about Patrick (age, occupation etc) so it will be easier to find him on 1901, death for him etc.
A death for either hin or Mary might help - as a Will may mention their adoptive daughter....
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 22 November 08 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Hope you get it sorted!
I am sure there will be a document somewhere that confirms it for you.
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Re: golden
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 22 November 08 18:41 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
There is a Florence Doherty aged 15 yrs in the Girls Mutual Aid Home Chorlton at  RG13; Piece: 3699; Folio: 151; Page: 2- this may be the one you mention as Florrie?

What is odd, is that Currie P is 7 in 1891- born around 1884 then. Lancashire BMD only has a Cyril b 1896. ??? That death would fit with a birth in 1896 ish.

Here is Easter E- I think. (Easter Eve b 1890) - interestingly in Yorkshire - transcribed as Eva Easton but looks like Easter
1901 RG13; Piece: 4211; Folio: 6; Page: 4
57 Golderd Rd Wortley (nr Leeds)

Ann Whitehouse head widow 50 yrs b Doncaster
Mary Agnes daur 27 yrs dressmaker b Preston Lancs
Catherine daur 23 yrs  dressmaker b Preston Lancs
Emily daur 22 yrs dressmaker b Leeds Yorkshire
Wilfred Whitehouse son 12 yrs b Leeds Yorkshire
Eva Easter Doherty adopted 10 yrs b Manchester Lancs
John Wm Callaghan 27 yrs boarder  house painter b Ossett Yorks

it does look then as though they were just ordinary adoptions - what do you think?
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Re: golden
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 23 November 08 09:22 GMT (UK) »
yes it does look that way but why would someone with plenty of children adopt.


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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 23 November 08 12:12 GMT (UK) »
I agree it does look odd. I can't find any connection though.
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