1851 Pritchards in Manchester?

[FAB Fiona]

I wonder if someone might be able to locate the following family in the 1851 census:

William B Pritchard b. abt 1805, Leeds
Wife: Margaret, b. abt 1814, Dublin, Ireland

Sarah, b. abt 1840, Manchester
Joseph b. 1844, Manchester
Sophia b. 1847, Manchester
Edwin b. 1849, Manchester

There maybe older children too.  William's occupation maybe chiropodist (but only maybe).
I can't find them on ancestry at all.

Many thanks

Fiona

[skb]

They are on the unfilmed, so won't appear on Ancestry or similar

Have a look at www.1851-unfilmed.org.uk

They are living in Union St, Ardwick (William, Margaret, James, Sarah, Amelia,Joseph, Matilda, Sophia,Edwin and a James SMITH)

[HOWMUCH]

Hello Fiona

As SKB has posted they are on the 1851 unfilmed for Ardwick .

St Thomas's District
71 Union Street
William PRITCHARD Head Married 49 yrs chiropodist bn Leeds
Margaret wife 39 yrs chiropodists wife bn Dublin
James son 12 yrs scholar Leeds
Sarah dau 10yrs scholar Manchester
Amelia dau 8yrs scholar Manchester
Joseph son 7yrs scholar Manchester
Matilda dau 5yrs Manchester
Sophia dau no age but at home Manchester
Edwin son no age but at home Manchester
James SMITH servant unmarried no age bn Bradford
Hope that helps
Eric

[FAB Fiona]

Very many thanks both!

Problem solved,

Fiona

[AshleighK]

Hi Fiona,

I am also researching this family as they are a direct relation. Did you get. Much further with this family line?

I've gathered quite a lot of information but trying to find a birth/baptism record for William B Pritchard's father James but I'm not getting anywhere with it.

Happy to share research 

I wonder if someone might be able to locate the following family in the 1851 census:

William B Pritchard b. abt 1805, Leeds
Wife: Margaret, b. abt 1814, Dublin, Ireland

Sarah, b. abt 1840, Manchester
Joseph b. 1844, Manchester
Sophia b. 1847, Manchester
Edwin b. 1849, Manchester

There maybe older children too.  William's occupation maybe chiropodist (but only maybe).
I can't find them on ancestry at all.

Many thanks

Fiona

[FAB Fiona]

Hello Ashleigh

I haven't got any further at all with James.  I'm still expecting to find him somewhere... I think he is the one who died in Leeds, 1849.

However, I did find that William B had married twice before marrying Margaret Richmond. Do you have these? 
One was Ann who died in 1829 - no surname as I can't find the marriage, but had three daughters.
The second was Ann Carter in Bradford in 1830 by whom he seems to have had 2 daughters and a son - just before, and one at the same time, as he had a child with Margaret.  The second Ann moved to Manchester at roughly the same time as William and Margaret, kept a separate household and looked after his daughters by the first Ann.  He married Margaret after Ann Carter died in 1852 which seems to be when his children with Margaret were baptised.

Everybody seems to have been aware of everybody else.  The marriage certificates of his daughters by the two Anns are interesting.

Fiona

[AshleighK]

Hi Fiona,

Great to hear back from you. I also have his marriage to Ann Carter and Margaret Richmond. He married Margaret after the death of Ann despite them being together for x amount of years and having children.

I have a copy of William B Pritchard's Will and he names all children from both women in it so I am extremely confident that we are right.

I hadn't come across his marriage to another Ann, prior to Ann Carter.. I will take a look at this.

Did you ever come across a birth record for William Pritchard? It's causing me no end of headache trying to get to the bottom of this.

Also the name Bridgett that he started to use later in life confuses me. Someone on another forum suggested he might have been born as William Bridgett but then his mother married a Pritchard which is a definite possibility but I can't seem to find any evidence of that either.

There was a William Bridgett baptised in Leeds in 1801, father James. But no further mention anywhere...

Do you have the names of the two daughters that he had with the first Ann?

Hello Ashleigh

I haven't got any further at all with James.  I'm still expecting to find him somewhere... I think he is the one who died in Leeds, 1849.

However, I did find that William B had married twice before marrying Margaret Richmond. Do you have these? 
One was Ann who died in 1829 - no surname as I can't find the marriage, but had three daughters.
The second was Ann Carter in Bradford in 1830 by whom he seems to have had 2 daughters and a son - just before, and one at the same time, as he had a child with Margaret.  The second Ann moved to Manchester at roughly the same time as William and Margaret, kept a separate household and looked after his daughters by the first Ann.  He married Margaret after Ann Carter died in 1852 which seems to be when his children with Margaret were baptised.

Everybody seems to have been aware of everybody else.  The marriage certificates of his daughters by the two Anns are interesting.

Fiona

[FAB Fiona]

Hi Ashleigh

The three daughters of the 1st Ann appear to be: Sarah, Jane and Emma.  Jane and Emma are with the 2nd Ann in Bradford in 1841 (relationships not described) and described as nieces of the 2nd Ann in Stockport in the 1851 census. (Henrietta and Mary Ann are the 2nd Ann's own daughters.)

Jane had married Edgar Trafford in 1848 (he died 1850), and William Henry Board in 1853.
Emma had married before 1851 (surname Wiener? on census), and married again after? as she married William Turner as widow Emma Hall in 1860.
William B, chiropodist, is cited as the father for the dated marriages.
I haven't found the eldest sister Sarah in later records, but she was baptised in 1827 in Leeds (same as Jane and Emma).

I wondered if Bridgett was his birth surname.  There are a few people with the surname in the area.  I haven't pursued it recently.
I also wondered if our James is the James Pritchard who married widow Abigail Low in Leeds in 1817 - this James was a joiner but no status or age given.  He could equally be another son to our James and a brother to William B.  If James' family life was as chaotic as William B's, then he may well be difficult to trace.

Deeply frustrating not to be able to find William B's birth for sure!  That he was able to set himself up as a chiropodist in central Manchester which seems to have given him a relatively substantial income is a curious fact.  I'd love to know his secret.

Fiona