Wolstanton records

[moonunit]

Hi WC - If you can confirm the connection I can give details of their children and descendants.
Maggie

[moonunit]

Del - To make it even bigger there is a connection between Copes and Reptons.  John and  Mary (1799) Cope's daughter Sarah (1834) married a Thomas Repton.  In 1708 Dorothy Repton, daughter of Rev John Repton Rector of Stoke and incumbent of Norton married Francis Meare (corruption of Mayer) of Norton Green Hall.  The problem is making the connections.

Patricia - The tree is nearly complete but currently to print about a metre square!!!!  
  
Maggie  

[delta59]

You are right Maggie. 

I am positive there is a connection.  In the 50's my Mum & Dad went to the potteries with various other people at various times looking into the lost will of Joseph Mayer.  As I have looked into various branches of my Dad's tree Cope is the only one that I have seen that is familiar.  Sadly I now have no-one to ask as they are all dead.

Del

[winstoncunningham]

Hi Maggie/Del,

No luck with my ''Blood line'' I'm afraid. Jane Blood b.1800 Uttoxeter did have a brother called Samuel b.1797 Uttoxeter who married Elizabeth Archer (of Chester) in Uttoxeter 1822. This Samuel Blood died in Uttoxeter in 1843 aged 46, and his son Samuel Blood b.1838 (Jane's nephew) died unmarried in Uttoxeter in 1861 aged 23.

So my Bloods are firmly rooted in Uttoxeter, and are not linked obviously to the Samuel Blood who married Esther Leek in Hanley in 1858. 

Regards
WC

[caerfai]

Hi Maggie,

I thought it would be a large tree-will e mail you.

Pat

[vinnell3937]

Hi WC

I found this marriage which might be of interest to you

OBADIAH MARE  to Sarah Blewer - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 01 DEC 1793 Whitmore, Stafford, England
(surname Blewer may also be Bloor)

My Ancestor Alice Mare who married John Ford in Stoke on trent 1/11/1764 had a sister Deborah Mare who married John Repton at the same church in Whitmore, Staffordshire

DEBORAH MARE  to John Repton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 14 JUL 1763 Whitmore, Stafford, England

It could be possible that Obadiah Mare and my Alice Mare and her sister Deborah Mare are related somehow  given the location where they married in Whitmore, Staffordshire

Regards
Robert

[billharrison]

Note you said WHITMORE ... don't forget that Whitmore along with Norton in the Moors was like a "Gretna Green" with 2 or 3 times as many marriages you would expect from villages of their size.  The clergy there would marry anyone with no questions asked .. provided of course they paid the fees!

regards

Bill  (www.harrisongenealogy.co.uk)

[winstoncunningham]

Robert,

Thanks very much for the intriguing Obadiah Mare/Sarah Blewer marriage in Whitmore, which led me directly on IGE to Obadiah Mare b.Sept 1798 in Trentham, son of Obadiah and Sarah. I agree that it seems possible that these 2 Obadiahs are linked to your Spragg House Mare family.

The Trentham Obadiah Mare b.1798 is exactly the right age for my Uttoxeter Obadiah Mayer (who for example is recorded in 31 March 1851 census as being 52 years old), but the place of birth being Trentham still bothers me as my Obadiah is consistently recorded in all censuses as having been born in Uttoxeter.

However, I can't see any other Obadiah Mare/Mayers in the 1841 census (in fact there aren't many Obadiah's in England!). Also there is a strong reason for my Obadiah ending up in Uttoxeter, it being his wife Jane's home town.  So this is the closest I have come to identifying his ancestors ! 

Best regards,
WC

[vinnell3937]

Hi WC
This could be a theory as to why Obadiah Mare was christened 1798 in Trentham but ended up in Uttoxeter

You have the marriage of Obadiah Mare to Sarah Blewer ( Bloor) 1793 in Whitmore, Staffordshire then you have the christening of Obadiah Mare 1798 in Trentham but possibly Sarah Mare nee Blewer died between 1800-1807 as there is a marriage of an Obadiah Mare to a Mary Colclough    
17 OCT 1808      Stoke Upon Trent, Stafford.
You would need to check if Obadiah Mare was a widower in 1808 when he married Mary Colclough

Below is the distance travelled by Obadiah Mare if the theory was correct

Whitmore to Trentham
Total Distance: 4.79 mile(s), 7.71 km(s)
Estimated journey time of: 10 minute(s)

Then

Trentham to Stoke-on-Trent
Total Distance: 3.72 mile(s), 5.99 km(s)
Estimated journey time of: 6 minute(s)

Then
    
Stoke-on-Trent to Uttoxeter
Total Distance: 16.74 mile(s), 26.94 km(s)
Estimated journey time of: 20 minute(s)


Regards
Robert