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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 11 April 09 01:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Trees, Willow etc
Thankyou so much, I have been reading your posts as I am also looking for Cannon Street, No.19 to be exact,my father was born there,in 1930 -  His parents were Alfred and Caroline Nicholas (nee Cadman ! ) Alf ( my grandad) worked for the railway for all his working life,so reading what you have found about the railway works in that street/area is very interesting, as is the fact that the Rose and Crown was managed by another Cadman! I`m certain there has to be a connection there.....
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Cadman (Sedgeley,Bilston,Willenhall,Dudley) Evans (willenhall /wales) Moreman/Bulger (staffordshire)
Nicholas (staffordshire,monmouth wales) Price (staffordshire)
Keegan (houghton le spring/easington co. Durham) Reynoldson (ryhope,co durham /scotland) Nisbet (scotland) Hart (co.durham) Swift (co.durham)

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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 11 April 09 09:08 BST (UK) »
A big welcome to Rootschat Lourdes01 and possibly a welcome to the family too It would be a big coincidence for your CADMAN not to link to the one at the Rose and Crown Strangely I have just been doing some work on my pubs site and am due to add an update later today.
Do you know who your Caroline's parents were? I haven't gone down below the 1861 census with the CADMAN family and have not got a Caroline but I will take a look for you Our connection with them is rather loose. one of the daughters from the "Crown" married a BOWDLER and one of their daughters married an ARNOLD who is on a branch of my tree.

For interest I am now also looking for anything on these pubs in the Midlands
The King William IV/King's head/King William-one pub different names over time - 8 Pensnett Rd Dudley
Old Coach and Horses Stourbridge Rd Dudley
Seven StarsHigh St Dudley
Somerset Arms Dixon's Green Dudley
The Waterloo Mill St Brierley Hill
and The Cross keys Brettell Lane Kingswinford

Any information of any of these will be very welcome
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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 11 April 09 10:43 BST (UK) »
This won't be much help with the current queries, but the 1851 census street index for Wolverhampton (and most other places) is now online on Your Archives

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Place:Wolverhampton_Registration_District%2C_1851_Census_Street_Index

There are some 1841 indexes too.

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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 11 April 09 11:00 BST (UK) »
many thanks genie thats work noting
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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 11 April 09 23:41 BST (UK) »
Hi
thanks genie for that info it may prove useful.

Hi trees
My grt grandparents were Thomas and Mary Ann Cadman (nee Evans) Thomas was born 1856 in Willenhall  - his parents were Thomas (b. 1823) and Rosanna Glover (widow)(nee Moreman).Their place of residence was Bilston when they married ( they married in Sedgeley). His parents were Robert Cadman and Caroline Armstrong. Robert and Thomas (snr) were both miners.
However my grt grandfather ,Thomas (jnr) was an ironworker, and from what I have been learning lately there were connections to cannon street for this occupation too, as well as the grt western railway works (where my grandfather,Alfred Nicholas worked)
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Cadman (Sedgeley,Bilston,Willenhall,Dudley) Evans (willenhall /wales) Moreman/Bulger (staffordshire)
Nicholas (staffordshire,monmouth wales) Price (staffordshire)
Keegan (houghton le spring/easington co. Durham) Reynoldson (ryhope,co durham /scotland) Nisbet (scotland) Hart (co.durham) Swift (co.durham)

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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 12 April 09 08:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Lourdes, Happy Easter I'm just off to Church and Will take a look later but My Simeon b abt 1804 was married to Rebecca ARMSTRONG so is that yet another coincidence or are we really on to something here
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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 12 April 09 13:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Lourdes.
My Tree is topped with
Robert Cadman and Mary COOPER m 1797 Snifnal Shropshire
2 known ch
Thomas1802 bap Wombridge Shropshire m Ann LEEK 1845 W'hampton
Simeon 1804 bap Wombridge Shropshire m Rebecca ARMSTRONG 1827 W'hampton
Did they have a Robert? it certainly was normal practice to name a son after the father but I have not found one yet and there ids a gap between the m and Thomas. Thomas is a promenant name on your line isn't it

Rebecca Armstrong was bap 1808 Dawley Magna Shropsh dau Thomas/Ann? she had a sister
Caroline ARMSTRONG 30 Dec 1810 Dawley Magna
you can see the entry  family search P008591
the names were latinised as many registers were kept in Latin at that time.
The problem is that she would be too young to be the mother of
Thomas b 1823

I'll Carry on looking
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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:31 BST (UK) »
Hi again Now I am worried I have found the 1851 census
Class: HO107; Piece: 2019; Folio: 568; Page: 24
With a Robert Cadman 1815 Dawley (An..ry has transcribed his age as 30 but to me it looks like 36)
wife Caroline 1816 Dawley
I can see they may have knocked a few years from her age to be nearer in age to him and there does not appear to be another younger Caroline bapt in Dawley P008591  1666 - 1812 or     C008592      1813 - 1828
but they are both definitely from DAWLEY so is this the Robert Cadman and Caroline Armstrong you have mentioned? Do you have the details of the wedding? In 1851 there is no Thomas with them and she would have been young to have one near 1823 where have you found Thomas? I am now itching to know if its a case of brothers marrying sisters
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Re: Cannon Street Wolverhampton?
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 12 April 09 22:53 BST (UK) »
it looks like Caroline died 1851-1861 and Robert m Abigail Hawthorn  dec qtr 1853 does this fit your family knowledge? I am still worried that I cant find a Thomas help
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