Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas

[georgecroudace]

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi George,

These are the basic details of that family. It looks as though John & Elizabeth moved to the Monmouth or Bristol area, with their 3 surviving children, shortly after the death of daughter Jane in 1808. Another lister has the details of the familiy after this move, and I have many earlier generations.

Regards,
Colin

                     
1  CROUDACE, John   b: 1774 in Lanchester, County Durham     Baptism: 07 Apr 1774 Lanchester, County Durham  Source: Parish Records   
..+WATKIN, Elizabeth   b: 1777 in Washington, County Durham     Baptism: 24 May 1777 Washington, County Durham  Source: Parish Records
   m: 23 May 1798 Horton near Blyth, Northumberland  src: Parish Records      
2  CROUDACE, Elizabeth b: Mar 1799 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 18 Nov 1800 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, James b: 06 Jul 1800 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 18 Nov 1800 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, John   b: 1801 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     d: Sep 1801 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 27 Sep 1801 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Mary   b: 04 Aug 1802 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 29 Dec 1802 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records         
2  CROUDACE, Dorothy b: Jul 1803 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Aug 1803 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 07 Aug 1803 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, John   b: 1804 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     d: Nov 1806 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 28 Nov 1806 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Jane   b: 20 Aug 1805 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Baptism: 29 Sep 1807 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  Source: Parish Records d: Aug 1808 Philadelphia, Penshaw Staith, County Durham     Burial: 16 Aug 1808 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Dorothy b: Aug 1806 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Nov 1806 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 19 Nov 1806 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

2  CROUDACE, Mary   b: Nov 1807 in Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham  d: Dec 1807 Painshaw (Penshaw), County Durham     Burial: 15 Dec 1807 Houghton le Spring, County Durham  Source: Index of Parish Records

[Adamand]

Hello Colin and others interested in the Cruddace name (and variations)
Here is a Catholic baptism and marriage that may be of interest.

William Cruddace, born 18/Jan/1896, baptised16/Feb/1896,
parents John and Margaret Cruddace, maiden name Quinn, sponsor James Quinn.

John Cruddace son of William Cruddace of Hetton, married Margaret Quinn daughter of Michael Quinn of Tow Law on the 6/April/1885, witnesses Patrick English and Anna Quinn.

Both of the above were at St Joseph's Tow Law.

As for the Langley question in the previous postings.
Could it not be Langleydale? a small parish in Teesdale.
Perhaps the people just said langley.
Just google it to see what you think.

Adam

[Colin Cruddace]

Hello Adam, and thanks very much for those details.

I've found the family in 1901 at Crook (CRUDDES according to Ancestry) where William had two younger sisters, and his dad John as being born c1860 at Howden le Wear. In the 1891 at Helmington Row, John CRUDDAS was living with his widower dad William who was born c1822 at Kirby Stephen. I can't connect these with my line at the moment but I'll keep the details handy.

Regards,
Colin

[georgecroudace]

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.

[Croudaces]

thanks for the information you provided colin but i already had it what i would like to know is why you believe this part of the family from lanchester area went to monmouth area from my interpretation of the census and baptisms at st thomas monmouth the only person i can find is a william john who was born around 1805 and married mary ann morgan.if any one else has details i would be interested as i am trying to establish a one name study on the name croudace.
the family from the lanchester area is the most comprehensive in the quantity of information and international spread of the family do you trace your ancestry back to this family.

Hi George,

I am doing a study of the Croudaces ( my mother is a Croudace ) in Monmouth / Gloucestershire and have comprehensive records from the census and forestofdean.net.
I am interested in where you got the ' William John ' record from for his marriage to Mary Ann Morgan ( I am a direct descendant of this man ), as I have the details of his wedding record from the parish records and it only states ' John '. I have been corresponding with Colin and have yet to find out exactly where my ' John ' comes from.

Look forward to hearing from you.

[Colin Cruddace]

Hello to you both,
I have a James Crudace born c1797 and the only possibility I came across was James Croudace born 1800 and this led to a very comprehensive coverage of the Croudace families, but I could not find any other details for this James which left him as a strong contender, but I couldn't find any other details for his parents either, in particular their burials. After corresponding with Croudaces about her lines, their details matched almost perfectly with this family. In the National Burial Index there is a burial for James Croudace age 27 at St Paul's Bedminster, Somerset on 13th April 1828, and is a good match for James born 1800. I think the burial record for his mother is also a good match but I don't have the details. It might be coincidence but there was another family member, James born 1825 at Lumley Thicks, Lambton, who married Amelia Sutton in the Bridgewater District, Somerset in 1853, even though he was still living in the northeast.

I don't know where you got the details of William John, but I suspect John & Elizabeth had further children after they moved so perhaps he might be one, but 1805 would be too early for this.
John was a colliery viewer so I imagine he already had a job to go to, and if mining records are available there might be a lead as to where they went.

My lines are now detached from the Croudace families so I won't be doing further research on them but I'd be happy to pass on anything I have. They were a very interesting lot and had some very powerful connections.

Regards,
Colin

[Croudaces]

It now transpires that ' my John ' was indeed William John, his childrens baptism records ( they were baptised when his wife remarried after his death ) show William John as the fathers name.

[Colin Cruddace]

Glad to hear you got him sorted. What was his job? It might help to place where he came from in the northeast, if you still think that's where he came from.

Colin