Cruddace, Crudace, Croudace, Cruddas

[paul1966]

hi i am new here ,my grandad was cruddas and he was born in houghton le spring in county durham on the 29 june 1912 ,he nothers name was jane and i think he was named after his dad ,it seems the cruddas come from the family of dubson who had changed there name from darlin ,we hav a grace darlin who is very well know as saving some people at sea in the forfarshire wreck in 1838 ,she was born in baburgh in northumberland  ,anyone know anymore

[Colin Cruddace]

Hello Paul, and welcome.

It would help to know your grandad's full name. If you have his birth certificate then the details of his parents and occupations would also help to locate them in census.

Regards,
Colin

[paul1966]

hi all i have his name is wilfred cruddas ,he was born in the black boy public house on 29 june 1912 in houghton le spring in county durham ,i dont have his fathers name but his mothe s name was jane so i hav been told and i also think his dad was called wilfred as well, he joined the army at the start of WW11 and left to to sickness and worked on the seach lights in london till the end of the war ,I think his dad married a dobson  from houghton le spring as i can not find a cruddas before the 1890s ,so any help would be great  thanks

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi Paul,

Wilfred's birth in 1912 confirms mother's maiden name as Dobson. Looking on FreeBMD for a groom surname Cruddas and bride surname as Dobson within the previous 20 years gives William Cruddas and a possible Jane Dobson, married in the last quarter of 1899 In the Hartlepool district, vol 10a page 239.

On the 1901 census William and Jane are living at Heworth. He was a 21 year old coal miner (stonework) born Hetton. Jane was 23 born Ferryhill.

I'll see if I can get further back with William.

Colin

[Colin Cruddace]

FreeBMD birth registration, William CRUDDACK, Houghton 10a 494, 2nd quarter 1879.

1881 census, Hetton le Hole
William Cruddus Head Mar 42 Coal Miner born Cumberland
Martial  Do , wife Mar 42 born Durham
Elizabeth dau 21 Durham
Mary A dau 14 Durham
William son 2 Durham

Checking 1861 to clarify wife's name of Martial, living at Kibblesworth
William Crodace head Mar 23 coal miner born Cumberland
Matilda Do wife 22 born Kibblesworth
Elizabeth daur 10m born Gateshead Low Fell

FreeBMD marriage, 2nd quarter 1859, Sunderland 10a 525
William Croudace and possibly Matilda Watts

I think this gives you quite a bit to be going on with, but if you want anything more then just ask.

Regards
Colin

[Lorrie Sanders]

I am looking for any information on aWilliam Crudace and Mary Mellany. They had a sone, Peter Mellanby Crudace born 1817 in Durham. He was a ships carpenter.  He married  Elizabeth Mellanby 1848.   I know Peter came to Australia and that his wife died in England before she was able to migrate out .  They also had a daughter Mary Mallanby Crudace - do not know if there were other children.
Any information would be wonderful
regards
Lorrie

[Colin Cruddace]

Hi Lorrie and welcome to Rootschat, 

I believe you may have contacted me previously about Peter's family and I sent the following details as an email attachment, which you might have missed. If there are any other details you would like then you have come to the right place to ask. 

I couldn't find any information about Peter's father William, but someone else might.

Regards,
Colin


Family of Peter Crudace of Stockton

At St. Thomas Church, Stockton, there were no Crudace baptisms between 1810 – 1826

In Sunderland, Holy Trinity Baptisms,
Born 17.9.1819, Bapt. 9.4.1820 Mary Mellanby dau of William Croudace & Mary Mellanby, Low St., Labourer.

In the June quarter of 1848 there is a marriage in the Stockton District of Mary Millanby Cruddace to Robert Ward, and this may well be her, and a sister of Peter.
Stockton, Holy Trinity Marriage,
Page 142 entry 284
1848, May 30th, Robert Ward of full age, Bachelor, Farmer, Stockton son of Robert Ward, Farmer
Mary Millanby Crudace of full age, Spinster, dau of William Crudace, Farmer.
Both signed. Witnessed Ralph Wilkinson, Elizabeth Wilkinson (both signed).

Found at Bishopwearmouth, St Michael,
Page 163, entry 1297, 25th Dec 1816, Peter son of William & Mary Croudace, Wearmouth, Labourer.

Also, found at Monkwearmouth, St Peter.
Page 61 entry 182, William Carruthers, Bachelor of this Parish, Mary Mellanby, Spinster of this Parish, married by Banns with consent of parents this 29th day of March 1815. Both signed quite neatly, but very odd that he signed Carruthers (note – consent of parents, was a standard entry, does not imply under-age, but could do).
Witnessed Thomas Watson, W Robson, both signed.

Stockton, Holy Trinity Register of Marriages, Page 94 No. 188.
1845, Nov 6th. Married by Licence
Peter Mellanby Crudace full age, bachelor, ship carpenter, Stockton, son of William Crudace, labourer.
Elizabeth Mellanby full age, spinster, Stockton, daughter of John Mellanby, master mariner.
Both signed. Witnessed William Mellanby & Henry May (parish clerk?)

Stockton, Holy Trinity baptisms
Page 77 No. 608
1846, Oct 25th, William Mellanby, 1st son of Peter Mellanby & Elizabeth Crudace, Stockton, ship carpenter.

Page 105 No. 828
1848, Oct 29th, Jane, 1st daughter of Peter Mellanby & Elizabeth Crudas, Stockton, carpenter.

Page 134, No. 1060 (marked ‘P’ = Private, at home?)
1851, March 10th, Margaret 3rd child of Peter & Mellanby Crudace (sic), Stockton,
ship carpenter.

Page 149, No. 1177
1852, April 25th, Mary Agnes 3rd daughter of Peter Mellanby & Elizabeth Crudace, Stockton, shipwright.

[Lorrie Sanders]

Thanks Colin - Its nice to see others are "hitting brick walls" with finding their ancestry - but enjoying the challenge - like me.
yes you had given me most of that information before.  I am wondering if Peter had any brothers or sisters.  I have not to date found any.  Also have not found William and Mary's death dates.??
Regards
Lorrie

[peterpascoe]

Hi Colin
I am new to Rootschat - my name is Peter Pascoe - and Elizabeth Croudace born Painshaw 1799, was my gtgtgmother.I know all about the Pascoe line/history back to the 1700's when they were in Bristol, but I had drawn a blank on the Croudaces. So I was fascinated - and thrilled! - to find your threads on them on roots chat.
I would be very pleased indeed if you could let me have details of Elizabeths forefathers and what they did.
How does roots chat work? Can you email details to me? ( ps you probably know that Elizabeth died in childbirth on the day she gave birth to my gtgfather)