John Anderson RNVR Auchterarder

[mmm45]

Theres a Medal Index Card at the NA Documents Online site for Margaret Eadie  Anderson Queen Alexandras Imperial Nursing Corps for her ww1 service.

Ady

[b1b2j3]

From Andrew- 2007. ( I think William visited Vancouver to visit the Horsburgh part of his Eadie Family) But, read on ....

Eadie Family visit Canada
Date: 1910
Notes: 
Actual text: It is not known why William decided to go to Vancouver in about 1910 but he was involved in the export of vehicles made by the Albion Motor Car Company of Scotstoun, Glasgow. His name first appears in the Lloyd's Shipping Register for 1910/11 (running from 1st July to 30th June of each year) as owner of s.Cetriana & s.Petriana with his address as 434, Richards Street, Vancouver, BC, Canada. It would appear that both of these ships were bought in Glasgow. The s.Petriana had not been sold when it was launched on 22 Feb 1909 & this was probably one of the low points in the ship building market with ships being able to be bought cheaply. William & Agnes took their children William, Alexander, James & Isabella with them to Canada; probably Robert, John & Janet were already married by this time. Robert & also, probably, John who was also a stevedore were left to look after the business at Queen's Dock in Glasgow. William owned s.Petriana for only about a year before selling the ship to Canadian North Pacific Fisheries Co. Ltd. & in 1911 purchases the ship s.British Empire. All the ships were designed for coastal shipping & the details of them are given below

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William Eadie. 1856 15 Feb Birth
Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland, United Kingdom8 source citations Hide source citations  1871 Scotland Census 1881 Scotland Census ScotlandsPeople GROS Database 1891 Scotland Census 1901 Scotland Census New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935 1861 Scotland Census1812
 Departure
Glasgow, Scotland1 source citation Hide source citations  Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-19351861
 
Age: 5 Residence
31 Queen Street, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Janet & Robert a Spirit Dealer, Parents. Children- Alex & William. A James Henderson (relative?) ; Robert Eadie 26 Janet Eadie 27 William Eadie 5 Alex Eadie 1 James Henderson 23 Jane Purves 14 Mary Hardie 201 source citation Hide source citations  1861 Scotland Census1871
 
Age: 15 Residence
6 Gloucester Street, Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland1 source citation Hide source citations  1871 Scotland Census1871
 
Age: 15 Occupation
6 Gloucester Street, Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Measurer of Ships Cargo1881
 
Age: 25 Residence
Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland1 source citation Hide source citations  1881 Scotland Census1881
 
Age: 25 Occupation
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Measurer Goods & Cargo 1881
 
Age: 25 Occupation
Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Stevedore- Dock worker loading and unloading ships cargo. William also measured cargo. A forerunner to many administrative positions within Maritime working history.1882
 21 MarAge: 26 Marriage to Agnes Houston
Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Gorbals & Govan same. @ Andrew Eadie copyright & GROS copyright. For internal reference ancestry.com & not for profit etc.1882
 AfterAge: 26 Residence
52 Ardgowan Street, Glasgow
Andrew Eadie Writer and Source. GROS copyright on external reproduction.1884
 7 SepAge: 28 Residence
52 Ardgowan Street Kinning Park, Glasgow
Janet born elswhere. Daughter- Janet Boyd Eadie.1891
 
Age: 35 Residence
101 Pollok St, Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland1 source citation Hide source citations  1891 Scotland Census1891
 
Age: 35 Occupation
101 Pollok St, Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Measurer & Stevedore1901
 
Age: 45 Residence
8 Albert Drive, Kinning Park, Glasgow Govan, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes 41 & Wm 45 Parents. Children- Alex 9, Isabella 4, James 7, Janet 16, John 14, Margaret 1, Robert 18, William 10. Plus Marg Smith 59 & Eliz Douglas 17.1 source citation Hide source citations  1901 Scotland Census1910
 25 JanAge: 53 Immigration
Liverpool, England
William Eadie- Travelling with Alex Eadie Son, Clerk And Robert McDonald Freer, Son in Law & husband of Janet Boyd EADIE, Williams Daughter, Alex's Sister (born 7 Sep 1884).1910
 
Age: 54 Residence
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Andrew Eadie Writer & Source: It is not known why William decided to go to Vancouver in about 1910 but he was involved in the export of vehicles made by the Albion Motor Car Company of Scotstoun, Glasgow. His name first appears ..1 source citation Hide source citations  Family History Source & Writer pages.1912
 6 OctAge: 56 Arrival
New York, New York1 source citation Hide source citations  New York Passenger Lists, 1820-19571912
 6 OctAge: 56 Arrival
New York, New York
6 October 1912. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935. Via NY, USA. Travel to Vancouver, Canada. Agnes nee: Houston. Travelling with Husband William Eadie, Ship Owner & Daughter Isabel.1 source citation Hide source citations  Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-19351912
 6 OctAge: 56 Emigration
Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935. Via NY, USA.
6 October 1912. Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935. Via NY, USA. Travel to Vancouver, Canada. Agnes nee: Houston. Travelling with Husband William Eadie, Ship Owner & Daughter Isabel.1940
 1 AprAge: 84 Death
Saltcoats, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom1940
 3 AprBurial
Ardrossan, Saltcoats, Ayrshire, Scotland, UK
Andrew Eadie Writer and Source. GROS copyright on external reproduction.

[abe23]

Regarding the photo of the car taken in Stanely Park, Vancouver it is definitely an Albion car manufactured in Glasgow. I am not certain whether it is an A3 or an A6.

I went to the Transport Museum in Glasgow today & took some photos of the two A3 cars they have. Unfortunately the cars are very close to each other and so it is dificult to get good photos. The grey coloured car is an Albion A3 16HP Tourer of 1910 and the red one is an Albion A3 12 HP Tonneau of 1904.

[abe23]

Here are two photos showing the chain drive to the rear wheel of each car.

[abe23]

Finally here is photo of the side of the A3 16HP Tourer

[abe23]

Here is some more information about s. British Empire. Unfortunately I am unable to include the photo as I do not own the copyright to this from a newspaper). The ship remained as s British Empire after its arrival in Vancouver.

I would be delighted to see more from John Anderson's journal of the voyage from Grangemouth to Vancouver. I have always been surprised that the ship, which was basically a coastal steamer, sailing to Vancouver via Cape Horn. The Panama Canal was still being built in 1911.

S.British Empire

This is the only photo found of the ship. Following collision in the Manchester Ship Canal on 23 May 1910 the ship was sold by auction for £2,300 to the Greenock & Grangemouth Dockyard Company Ltd on 14 July 1910. The ship received a certificate of seaworthiness on 21 November 1910 and was sold to William Eadie of 434 Richard Street,Vancouver, BC, Canada on 19 January 1911. William Eadie appoints himself Managing Owner and owns all 64 shares in the ship.

The ship was purchased using a mortgage from Greenock & Grangemouth Dockyard at 6%. On 20 November 1913 a mortgage is secured from The Clydesdale Bank Ltd, of Glasgow, Scotland to pay the amount due to the Greenock & Grangemouth Dockyard.

Daily News 21st Feb 1911 (Vancouver BC)
Steamer British Empire in Distress

"The steamer British Empire, which is on the way from Grangemouth, England for the Northern Steamship company’s coasting service in northern ports, has put into St. Vincent with her machinery badly damaged and will have to remain there until new machinery is sent from England. The British Empire was purchased by the Northern Steamship company to replace the company’s steamer Petriana sold to the Canadian Northern Pacific Fisheries company and is to be named Petriana on arrival, a new name being found for the whaling company’s steamer. When the Canadian Northern Pacific Fisheries company bought the vessel the name did not go with the purchase. The British Empire left Grangemouth on January 21st for Victoria. It is not known when she will be able to proceed."

Lloyds Register 1911/12
The following details are given:
   Length 167.5 ft., Breadth 26.6 ft., Depth 11.5 ft.
   Tonnage Gross 576, Under Deck 407, Net 255.
Built in 1902 by Garston Graving Dock 7 Shipbuilding Company, near Liverpool.


Sources of information:
1.   Greater Manchester County Record Office
B/10/3/574 “Sinking of S.S. British Empire”
2.   Falkirk Archives, Callendar House, Falkirk
CE68/11/3 Customs Records for Grangemouth

[sula sgeir]

Re posting of 21 January.

The details of the coaster British Empire are very interesting. It must havebeen quite a voyage around Cape Horn and then along the coast of S America passing the Galapagos, and the Juan Fernandez archipelago ( Alexander Selkirk !). John Anderson's  journal doesn't cover that part of the voyage - perhaps the pages have been lost. However he mentions the problem with a valve in a boiler for which running repairs had to be effected at the time. He also records how they had a near-miss with alarger ship.

Have tried up loading some of his journal but detail is very small so might have to transcribe.

[angusg]

I see from the photo that this is the "Hollow Tree" in Stanley Park. Vancouver, B.C. Canada.

The tree is now so decrepit its going to be held up by ropes at great expense.