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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #9 on: Friday 21 November 08 22:12 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #10 on: Friday 21 November 08 22:19 GMT (UK) »
From the OurRoots link above

Directory of nursing archival resources in Alberta
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=6888

Gazetteer and directory of the county of Simcoe
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=4519

Grande Prairie
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=6116

Growth : a history and anthology of the Synod of Alberta of the Presbyterian Church in Canada
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=4351

Heritage of service
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=5306

Historical review, June 23-24, 1951
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=3632

A History of Upper Canada College
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=816

Manitoba, its resources and people
http://www.ourroots.ca/e/toc.aspx?id=12026

Ten years in Winnipeg
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They Gathered at the River
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Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #11 on: Friday 21 November 08 22:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Julie,

I don't have Henry Prittie having a son Adam.  I have several Prittie trees as one of the daughters married into the Perry family that I am researching.  Burke's Landed Gentry and other Burkes publications also don't have Adam listed as a son of the "main" line.

I do have a reference to an Adam Perry of Tipperary who has a will extract (somewhere) which is dated 1799.  It is likely an extract from Betham but I didn't take notes.  It does however suggest the the name was used in the family but probably from a sibling or uncle of Henry.  I'll do a little sleuthing though as I know I have more Prittie files buried somewhere ;) .

Karen
Perry - Tipperary, Wiltshire & Ontario
Gibbs - Buckinghamshire & Ontario
Cowan - Tipperary & Ontario
Bell - Glenavy, Ireland & Ontario
Drury - England & Ontario
Ritchie - Scotland & Ontario
Glover - Ireland, Edinburgh & Thorah/Brock Twp. Ontario

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #12 on: Friday 21 November 08 22:51 GMT (UK) »
I haven't dug up my files yet but an idea just occured to me.

The 1851 census lists Adam and Jane (recorded James) as being 65 and 70 years old.  If John "Pretty" is their son and 23 years old then Jane was 47 years old when he was born.  Possible but unlikley back in those days.

Could Jane (or Mary Jane) perhaps be his 2nd wife?  He would have been 42 years old when John was born and normally the 1st wife was somewhat younger and it wasn't unusual for the 1st wife to be 6-10 years younger.  John is likely the youngest child as he is the only one listed living with them on the 1852 census and his siblings may be married and out of the house by then.  Perhaps Adam remarried a cousin after Mary Caswell died?  Jane certainly seems to be a little old to be John's mother.

Just an idea.

Karen
Perry - Tipperary, Wiltshire & Ontario
Gibbs - Buckinghamshire & Ontario
Cowan - Tipperary & Ontario
Bell - Glenavy, Ireland & Ontario
Drury - England & Ontario
Ritchie - Scotland & Ontario
Glover - Ireland, Edinburgh & Thorah/Brock Twp. Ontario


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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #13 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:19 GMT (UK) »

1822 Perth Military Depot (Village), Lanark County
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04w4/


Here are the images for the 1851 Census that Karen is talking about.

1851 Drummond Twp, Lanark County

"Adam Pretty"
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002355515.pdf

"Thomas Pretty"
http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/1851_pdf/e095/e002355521.pdf

Keep your eye on this site for the other census to be transcribed
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04w5/

Janice
Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #14 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Lanark County Genealogy
(cemetery listings)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04w5/



Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #15 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karen & Janine,

Thank you both for the links - it makes pretty interesting reading!!

It's quite possible she was his 2nd wife. I just have no idea. The reason I came looking was that my 3ggg-grandma was a Mary Prittie who married Pat O'Connors/Connors. She was living in Mucklin in a property owned/leased from lord Dunalley. This was as a ?legacy (for want of a better word) from her parents. She & Pat had 3 daughters (that we know of) who were born there around 1830-1840. The 3 daughters came to Australia and I can rack them from there. I was then given this:

"A Licence of Marriage without Publication of Banns was granted to Adam Prittie of Mucklin in the Co. of  Tipperary Farmer and Mary Prittie of Silvermines in  the Parish of Kilmore County of aforesaid and Diocese of Killaloe Spinster February 17 1816 Security Thomas Prittie of Silvermines."

I have seen this in a number of places including the Caswell book.

Don't mind iftyey're not in the main line - I'd just really love to find out what the story is.  ??? ??? ??? I have a heap of little bites of info and am trying to piece them together - what a job! I really appreciate your help.

Cheers,
Julie
NORTON/KNOCKTON/KNOCKTER - Ireland to Goulburn/Young/Cootamundra NSW Australia
KEATING - Waterford Ireland, Melbourne then Steels Creek & Yarra Glen Victoria / Sydney NSW Australia
RYAN - Silvermines, Nenagh, Co Tipp, IRL, Melbourne then Steels Creek & Yarra Glen Vic Australia
SPILLANE - Limerick, Ireland, Melbourne Australia
GAUNT - England, Melbourne Australia
EGAN - Ballingarry, IRL - Goulburn, Australia
CROKE - Ballingarry, IRL - Goulburn, Australia
PRITTIE - IRL & Canada

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #16 on: Friday 21 November 08 23:44 GMT (UK) »
Granny's Genealogy
http://granniesgenealogygarden.com/Granny1/marr1.html

A History of Drummond Township
"Adam Prettie"
http://www.rootschat.com/links/04w7/

Elder, Stewart, Johnston, Baskerville, Marks, Carson, Leitch, Bulloch, Thomson, Allen, Campbell, Gordon, Murray, Kelly, Chambers, Black, Cheyne, Youngson, Williamsdaughter, Anderson, Briggs, Pirie, Clark, Philp, Mannel, Lander, Rough, Lean, Bate, Brown, Oliver, Kitt, Shards, Bennet, Young, Petrie, Wylie, Herbertson, Martin, McAlister, Best, Ginn, Ross, McIntosh, McGillivray, Russell, Pettigrew, Fyfe, Barrie

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Re: Adam PRITTIE - Nenagh Co TIP to Ontario
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 22 November 08 09:04 GMT (UK) »
I had also seen that Marriage Bann notice but you must also consider that they may just have written her (future) married surname instead of her maiden name.  Just an idea but I have seen this before on several occasions.

The Thomas Prittie named as security would be a close relative and likely a brother to either Adam or Mary or even a father.  If you can find him you might be able to take it from there.

I'll check if I have a Thomas Prittie in my tree.

Karen

PS.  Do you know if Adam had more children and their names and order of birth?  The Irish did usually stick to a naming system that can often be of help identifying the grandparents.

1st son named after paternal grandfather
2nd son named after maternal grandfather
3rd son named after father

1st daughter after paternal grandmother
2nd dau after maternal grandmother
3rd daughter after mother

Sometimes the variation was used that the names of the maternal grandfather & grandmother were instead used for the oldest of each sex and then the paternal side.  In any case the eldest son and daughter usually had the same names as one set of grandparents and the 2nd born of each sex carried the names of the other set of grandparents.  Not always - but very often, especially among the gentry families who were very proud to pass down the names.
Perry - Tipperary, Wiltshire & Ontario
Gibbs - Buckinghamshire & Ontario
Cowan - Tipperary & Ontario
Bell - Glenavy, Ireland & Ontario
Drury - England & Ontario
Ritchie - Scotland & Ontario
Glover - Ireland, Edinburgh & Thorah/Brock Twp. Ontario