1871/1881 and marriage Elijah PRYCE

[OzzieJoan]

Do hope someone can help with this puzzle. Sorry it's a bit lengthy but I think you need to know the whole story.

Elijah John PRYCE and his wife Mary were Journeymen Carpenters (well I suppose strictly speaking it was just Elijah). Elijah born 1815 Walworth, Surrey; Mary b.1814 Stepney, Middx (taken from census but I don't know her maiden name).
 
1851 has them in Chelsea with Mary b.1846 Lambeth, Elijah J b.1847 Q1 Ealing and John b.1849 Chelsea.
 
1861 has them in Scotland
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1871 they are in Shoreditch, London with just Mary who is unmarried.
1881 still in Shoreditch just Elijah and wife.
 
Elijah J PRYCE b.1847 teams up with a Clara and become Professional Musicians. Haven't found a marriage but this could have been in Scotland. Their first son, Ernest, was born Peterhead, Scotland on 1891 census when they were all Musicians living in lodgings in Rhymney, Mon. 1901 has them at 3 Oak Street, Ealing where Alfred was born 1 month earlier than the census.
 
Can't find Elijah b.1847 with Clara in 1871 or 1881. Or Elijah on his own for those years. So I think perhaps they were in Scotland still. It could be that they didn't marry until about 1885 as the first son (known) was born 1887.

Many thanks to anyone who can find something for me.
OzzieJoan
 

[MonicaL]

Hi Ozziejoan

There is a birth of an Alfred Ernest Price showing in St Nicholas Aberdeen in 1888. If it is the right birth, it should also include the date and place of marriage of parents. I can't easily see marriage for parents in Scotland nor an entry for parents in 1871/81.

Monica 

[OzzieJoan]

Thank you Monica.

Not too sure if that will be the right family. Ernest b.1887 is shown as Peterhead and I thought that was a Glasgow area.

Also, wherever I have managed to find them, they have always been PRYCE not Price.

And Ernest was obviously still alive when Alfred was born in 1891 as they both appear on the 1891 and 1901 censuses with their parents. So I don't think they would have given both sons the Alfred name.

I appreciate your efforts and hope that someone might be able to come up with something for them.

Cheers,
Joan

[MonicaL]

Hi Joan

Peterhead is in Aberdeenshire not Glasgow area. In respect of spelling of Price/Pryce, I wouldn't be so concerned given that spelling variations were a sign of the times.

Whether it is the right birth, you won't know until you  have a look unfortunately.

Monica 

[OzzieJoan]

Hello Monica,
My apologies to all concerned for giving too much on the 1861 census result for the above.

I wonder if you would be able to give me whatever reference is necessary so that I can acquire the birth cert. for Alfred Ernest PRICE 1888 at St.Nicholas, Aberdeen, please?

Thanks for the geography lesson should have checked it myself first.

Cheers,
OzzieJoan

[MonicaL]

The certificate is available to view on line at the official pay to view site for Scottish BMDs and census images, www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, for £1.20GB (minimum spend £6.00 but you could also obtain an original image of the 1861 census for the family as well for another £1.20).

The references for the birth are:

1888 Alfred Ernest Price - St Nicholas/Aberdeen City - GROS ref: 168/01 1580

Monica 

[OzzieJoan]

Hello Monica,

Thank you very much for the reference. Hopefully that might get me a little further.

Regards,
Joan

[hcb0609]

Hi, It just so happens that I am researching the same family for a friend.  I am in the UK but have a lot of info re this family and it is a very, very long and complicated story.
I will sort out the info and if you would like to contact me in replying to this post I'll let you have some more nfo

best wishesHelen

[OzzieJoan]

Oh, Helen, this sounds too good to be true. I'm totally excited about what you might have.

I'm doing it on behalf of my Aunt Marie who is the daughter of Alfred PRYCE and is now in her 80's. She has no other known family except her son, Peter, who has just left England to live in New Zealand. For the last 50 years her life has revolved around him and, although she doesn't let it show, his leaving must have left a huge hole. I thought that a few new cousins (even distant ones) might help fill the gap. She is used to the computer but knows nothing about genealogy research.

I'm going to give you my webmail address for your first reply to this, and after that (offsite) I will give you my ISP email address. ^(*)

As the name implies, we live in Australia - central inland Queensland to be more accurate. Aunt Marie lives in Canterbury, Kent.

In great anticipation, kind regards,
Joan




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