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Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« on: Friday 07 November 08 20:32 GMT (UK) »
I would be most obliged if anyone could look up Philip Gourlay my GGfather in Scottish Census (most likely 1861 census).
thanks in advance
Pete

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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #1 on: Friday 07 November 08 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Hello and welcome.

Can you give us any more clues.? Roughly how old would he have been in in 1861 and which part of Scotland? Any other family members?

Jen
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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 November 08 20:54 GMT (UK) »
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1861

31 Thistle Street Glasgow Govan

Cornelius Gourlay Head 58 Labourer in Iron Works born Ireland
Cathrine Gourlay wife 50 born Ireland
Philip Gourlay son 26 born Ireland
Hugh Gourlay son 22 Dyer born Ireland
Cattrine Gourlay dau 20 Cotton P Loom Worker born Ireland
Robert Gourlay Grandson 3 born Glasgow Lanark
   
Glasgow Govan; ED 51 Page  9 Line 16  1861.

I do not have access to the original image to check this entry


Tricia


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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 November 08 00:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi to Tricia and Genjen
thanks for quick reply.  The only info I have is that Philip was a plumber and he married my ggmother called Anne (surname unknown), she died about 1918. Philip was apparently quite a bit older than her.

 They were living  in Dublin in 1884 and had children Lucy (Louisa), James, John (Sean) born 1870, Terence, Julia and Brigid.

Above Sean went on to ride the winner in the Grand National in 1898 )(a big thing in our family!)  The spelling of the name had become Gourley by this time).
Thanks again
Pete


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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 November 08 10:09 GMT (UK) »
This family unit isn't around(that I can see) on the 1851 so presume they were still in Ireland.
It doesn't give Philip's occupation on the 1861 but as I said I can't check the original.

Do you know the birth places of those children - does the date put them in Ireland for the 1871?



Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Tricia
Re the Gourleys:
Lucy (Louisa) was born in 1884 possibly Dublin, John (Sean) was born in 1869-1871, its not known where.
However its a pity these Gourleys were born in Ireland, in order to be mine, 26 year  old Philip would have been born in Ireland,  moved to Glasgow then moved to Dublin, a strange cycle.  I would have hoped he would have been born in Scotland.
thanks anyway

PS Would it be possible to look up Gourley(or Gourlay =Irish spelling) details on the 1871 Irish census, containing a Philip married to Anne with a son John, possibly in Dublin?  Although I think most if not all records may have been destroyed.

Pete

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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 11 November 08 20:15 GMT (UK) »
If no-one else picks this up on this thread it may be better to post on the Irish Board giving the details from the 1861.

I just don't know what Irish census records survived.


Sorry, Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 November 08 16:05 GMT (UK) »
First complete census for Ireland is 1901.
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Re: Census Look up reqd please for Philip Gourlay
« Reply #8 on: Friday 07 October 11 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Pete,

I believe that Philip (Gourlay) Gourley is my great grandfather. Julia Gourley who lived in Dublin is my grandmother. I recently found the grave of Anne Gourley and some of her children in Glasnevin cemetary in Dublin. Do you have information on other relatives.

Mary Reid