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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 January 09 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Again

I have just got a copy for the household for the 1911 census and Minnie says she was born in Falkirk.

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Andrew
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 14:19 GMT (UK) »
Hmm.

I looked on Scotlands People and there are no Minnie McGills born in Falkirk. Or at least, if they were born in Falkirk, they were registered somewhere else.

It offered me 3 matches on a soundex search for a female birth of Min*  Magill born between 1865 and 1880, these were:

1868, Mina Anna McClew, b. Portpatrick, Wigtownshire
1876, Minna McGill, b. Glencairn, Dumfriesshire (so the one on the 1881 Scotland census)
1879, Minna Michael, b. Newington, Edinburgh City/Midlothian.

Newington is the nearest one to Falkirk - but still 30 miles away!
Ancestry is down, otherwise I'd help look fo Minnies in Falkirk 1881. And Scotlands People is very slow, I think everyones out doing 1911-based lookups  ::)

 :) Barbara


LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 14 January 09 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the lookup I am also finding the same thing I have e-mailed Falkirk Reg office to see if they can help. It's worth a try

Andrew
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 15 March 09 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Again

It's been a while since I started this post I got a reply from the Reg office in Falkirk they were helpful but still came up blank. I do have a photo of Minnie by her son's grave in France so I thought I would check out passports. I first contacted the IPS and asked them about the history of passposts and if she would have needed one. They told me she would have had a passport at the time to travel to France and told me to contact the Disclosure of Information department. I did that and had to send them a lot of info and they did send it back saying they checked from 1898 until she died in 1950 and couldn't locate one. I do know there are trips organised to the war cemeteries where they didn't need passports so I guess she went on one of those.  I know she died at the Royal Infirmary in Manchester would they have any records? I can't find any occupation on any records so guess she wasn't working. Anyone got any ideas?

Andrew
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 15 March 09 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

You have her death certificate for 1950 I see - there is a Minnie White buried in Southern Cemetery, with Sarah White, Frank White and Francis Smith in the same grave. Would that be her?  Sarah White died in 1926, Frank in 1932, francis Smith in 1939.

The burial record would give you address at time of death, but I'm not sure it would tell you any more than is on the death certificate.

http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/     Pay per view unfortunately.

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #14 on: Monday 16 March 09 09:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Barbara

Thanks for your help I had seen that record and couldn't tie it into the family. After that I went to Dukinfield Cemetery and found a Minnie White at Audenshw cemetery which is the correct one. She is there with of her children and her husband. There is a headstone but that only gives date death and age. Her address was Welbeck Street in Ashton-Under-Lyne. This is where my Grandparents also lived at the same address and where my father lived when he was young. As you said it doesn't really help me anymore.

Andrew
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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #15 on: Monday 16 March 09 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Do you have the pedigree information from lds regarding william white, this has william as father of agnes, born in ireland.  Also names his parents, first spouse harriet other information but only has minnies first name.

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Re: Missing Great Grandmother
« Reply #16 on: Monday 16 March 09 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Thanks for the info yes I do have all that info although it states Agnes is his child I don't think she was but until I get her birth certificate from Ireland I can't prove it. Thanks again for checking.

Andrew
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